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| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
what makes one music good and the other not good?
if you can answer this and back it up with absolute proof you win the internet.
you do not have to agree, the world does not revolve around your tastes. |
What makes one music good and the other not good? Do you want to compare the music featured in your sets with a typical Blue Amazon track as featured in System-J's sets? Well, Blue Amazon have complex layered tracks with specific melodies, chords and pads (wow! music with melody and chords!), nicely engineered effects and samples which fit with the track as a whole, driving rhtyhms which seem to go somewhere rather than just being there, and an overall high level of both musicianship and production.
Typical Black Sun Machine track? Random disturbing glitches, out of place funkless rhythms, complete lack of melody and musicianship and hence zero emotion, and overall cheap level of production which is promoted as "cool" and "avantgarde". Shit is promoted as the new gold. I always wandered why one has to pay for those tracks. How is to pay and download all those tracks on beatport, week by week month after month? You probably end-up with a hard-drive full of countless, low-musical-quality mp3s with zero value (musical or as a medium) which just take some space in a hard-drive.Why not make it yourself? Ten tracks at FL a week. Easy, dirty and fast(and cheap!). No musical knowledge is needed, only some basic production skills.
Why they are not gonna be remembered? According to cognitive psychology,the degree of a memory trace's strength depends on some specific experiential features of the (in that case)auditory episode, such as strength of emotional reaction, distinctiveness, novelty, saliency,specificity and elaboration, as well as primacy and recency(what is perceived/encoded as coming first and what is perceived/encoded as coming last, plus a few others)
What does this music contain? None of these features whatsoever. This music is not meant to be emotional, each of these minimal tracks are not distinctive and can't be seperated from each other, there is nothing to make them stand-out from the rest and hence make them salient, a specific recognisable and elaborate musical form is absent and well, you can find some novel things such as weird disturbing samples which can cotnribute to a negative memory trace (if such a thing exists!). Why this music will be forgotten? Because its not of high quality and guess what, quality (as translated in the features i desrcibed-complexity and level of musicianship)) correlates with the experiential impression and the cognitive factors i described before and experiential impression and the cognitive factors i described before correlate with memory (strength).
Blue Amazon share some of these features and hence are remembered (we don't care about the number of people rememberering them or the fact that they don't sell at all, they are still remembered. Beethoven is the most famous musician in the world but the latest album of Madonna had probably multiple sales in comparison to the total Beethoven albums as sold by Deutsche Grammophon during 2008). Underworld share these features and also have the advantage of "primacy", that is, they are perceived as some of the first EDM pioneers, thats why they are usually even more remembered, more so than Blue Amazon (and we are always talking about intra-EDM comparisons not EDM with other genres of music).
One Night Stand Music. This is how i call it. Forgettable cheap mindless tracks which are made by the bucketload, played in some random night pleasing some random drunk clubber only to be replaced by a similar random track the month after.
Will Samim, Dahlback,Radio Slave or Deadmau5 be remembered? Hell no. Maybe people will hopefully remember the dark medieval "minimal" times of EDM during the 00s. Will Orbital, Underworld and Leftfield be remembered? Hell Yeah. You probably have figured out why by now. Its common sense but yeah.
Why am i writing all these? Because i can't stand anymore f*cking Radio Slave, Deadmau5, Samim's or whoever ****buttler's (picked that from the CoR thanks!) poitnless music. I can't stand the fact that good music is overlooked (as Sljiva stated). I hate the fact that because of this shity EDM state we are in, good music has a lower chance to be produced.
Last edited by PETRAN on Nov-10-2008 at 22:47
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It's just dance music and doesn't purport to be anything else - except in some cases, and that's troublesome. This is my main complaint with things like epic trance, prog and a lot of deep house. it looks, sounds, and smells like music, but it's not really.
