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Originally posted by NeoPhono Hey, it's part of the McDonald triad for antisocial personality disorder. 1. Bedwetting 2. Firestarting 3. Small animal torture I'm guessing "making love" to animals probably fits into the 3rd category.

That's why, instead of wetting the bed, starting fires, and torturing small animals, I wetted the kitchen table, started riots, and tortured big fat pandas

Seriously, though (I just had to make a bad joke, sorry ), although I do understand there's a correlation between these behaviours and antisocial personality disorder, it's hard to use just use one of those traits to make a case for a psychopathology, which seems to have happened a few posts above. Right?

It feels like the following:

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Originally posted by a fictional poster According to the revised fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, three diagnostic criteria must be met. Characteristic symptoms: Two or more of the following, each present for much of the time during a one-month period (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment). Delusions Hallucinations Disorganized speech, which is a manifestation of formal thought disorder Grossly disorganized behavior (e.g. dressing inappropriately, crying frequently) or catatonic behavior Negative symptoms—affective flattening (lack or decline in emotional response), alogia (lack or decline in speech), or avolition (lack or decline in motivation) If the delusions are judged to be bizarre, or hallucinations consist of hearing one voice participating in a running commentary of the patient's actions or of hearing two or more voices conversing with each other, only that symptom is required above. The speech disorganization criterion is only met if it is severe enough to substantially impair communication. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care, are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least six months. This six-month period must include at least one month of symptoms (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment).

Given that context, imagine you see a friend of yours who's having her finals AND has just broken up with her boyfriend. She has pulled several all nighters, and is very tired. Her speech is slurred, her fashion sense is "eccentric", and she's not exactly the most talkative - or excited - person around. And, because she's error prone, she may think people are talking to her, when they aren't.

Now, can you say she's schizophrenic? Of course not! Yet this kid has been judged by similar standards =/

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Originally posted by Lira That's why, instead of wetting the bed, starting fires, and torturing small animals, I wetted the kitchen table, started riots, and tortured big fat pandas Seriously, though (I just had to make a bad joke, sorry ), although I do understand there's a correlation between these behaviours and antisocial personality disorder, it's hard to use just use one of those traits to make a case for a psychopathology, which seems to have happened a few posts above. Right? It feels like the following: Given that context, imagine you see a friend of yours who's having her finals AND has just broken up with her boyfriend. She has pulled several all nighters, and is very tired. Her speech is slurred, her fashion sense is "eccentric", and she's not exactly the most talkative - or excited - person around. And, because she's error prone, she may think people are talking to her, when they aren't. Now, can you say she's schizophrenic? Of course not! Yet this kid has been judged by similar standards =/

I do agree that you can't make a diagnosis or prognosis based on one trait or action. However, in the case of your "friend" there is a reasonable explanation for her behavior. Her behavior is also commonly seen in many people and everyone at some time goes through what she's outwardly showing. I don't see how you can rationally explain torturing an animal and putting it up on YouTube and I don't think a majority of the population tortures animals or can somehow justify it, however.

Like I already said, you can't diagnose a person based on one action, but if that action is severe enough, you can come pretty close. You can't label someone a "hardened criminal" if they get a speeding ticket just once, however if a person kills just one person in a horrific, unjustifiable way, you probably can.

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Originally posted by R.j. Lira, why are you such a pussy?

Because it's very easy to be the internet tough guy, or judgemental in general. It's harder to step back and try to see what's going on.

In this case, would I say the kid needs help? Yes, definitely, and I think it's important to see what's going on and deal with that in the best possible way. But, claiming that he's a serial killer in the making and he needs burn in hell is something else entirely.

If that's what you mean by "pussy"

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I do agree that you can't make a diagnosis or prognosis based on one trait or action. However, in the case of your "friend" there is a reasonable explanation for her behavior. Her behavior is also commonly seen in many people and everyone at some time goes through what she's outwardly showing. I don't see how you can rationally explain torturing an animal and putting it up on YouTube and I don't think a majority of the population tortures animals or can somehow justify it, however.

I think it needn't shouldn't be justified, but explained (if that's what you meant by justified, sorry for getting caught up on semantics). How else will you solve the problem AND avoid future instances? Just as you don't arrive in a crime scene and say "It's the butler!" based simply on hearsay and quick look, it's pointless to point fingers the way people have done in this thread.

Although I'm not sure the views we hold are much different from this point on.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I probably wake up QWOPing.

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Originally posted by Banora Petition to get these kids tried as adults

Lol at it being described as a "de****able crime"

Auto filter for 'spic'?

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I'm so against them not being tried as adults, getting a slap on the wrist and free to walk the streets again, abusing animals and eventually move up to people.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I probably wake up QWOPing.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Lol at it being described as a "de****able crime" Auto filter for 'spic'?

oh man
if you think thats funny, i have an article for you
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...s-go-wrong.html

i was in class, and it was funny but not a problem till i saw buttbuttinate and had to leave cause I couldn't stop laughing

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Originally posted by mezzir oh man if you think thats funny, i have an article for you http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...s-go-wrong.html i was in class, and it was funny but not a problem till i saw buttbuttinate and had to leave cause I couldn't stop laughing

Holy shit.

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