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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN We don't normally see zild acting like a dickhead. It’s a refreshing change!

Ever since he got back from WMC he's tried to be Mr. Big Man on the boards.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Well then we'll have to take that route. I've taken one management class and I fell back on the lessons from that class routinely when I had my own staff, and even wish that I had taken more.

Okay, I'm interested here. Genuinely interested, not trying to be a pain or smart. Can you explain something practical that you learned in a management class which you later applied? You're obviously a very intelligent person and I'd be interested to see what influenced you so.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Well then obviously Zild > Lebezniatnikov, since I evidently "bs'ed my way to a degree."

probably but you said it i was just saying that you are wrong with your generalizations

math and science are tougher and take more talent/creativity is my argument that doesn't have much to do with me being better than you or you getting a BS degree though

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Originally posted by Zild probably but you said it i was just saying that you are wrong with your generalizations math and science are tougher and take more talent/creativity is my argument that doesn't have much to do with me being better than you or you getting a BS degree though

Ha, this genuinely amuses me since I've taken both Calc and Physics, and am currently in an Econ course that uses Calculus.

Because I see absolutely no creativity at all at confronting a problem and deciding which equation plug numbers into. Now, if you're talking about A Beautiful Mind type shit, then maybe you've got something, but remember, John Nash was an economist.

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Originally posted by Zild math and science are tougher and take more talent/creativity is my argument that doesn't have much to do with me being better than you or you getting a BS degree though

That's bullshit, there's no subjective view on that. Right up until you're actually doing research or writing text books, maths is rote learning whereby you copy formulas that other people have conceived before you and put them into practice. You're not making anything up yourself.

There's no way that's more creative than writing a poem or a 5000 word essay, which comes entirely from your head.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Why in the world would you get three Bachelor's degrees? If the Canadian system is anything like the United States', that would require 10+ years and only get you a raised eyebrow in a job interview. Do you mean that you had multiple majors, or are these abbreviated degrees?

English and French BAs were combined, and I started when I was 17. Finished both when I was 21. I could have gone straight for the MA in Translation, but I wanted the practical experience that is taught in the undergrad- I really needed it. I'm doing an accelerated version of the undergrad that will take me 2 years.

The economy is shit right now- I'm in no hurry to finish school.
I take occasional editing/translation contracts, I teach ESL in the summer, and during the year I work part-time in a hardware shop.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Ha, this genuinely amuses me since I've taken both Calc and Physics, and am currently in an Econ course that uses Calculus. Because I see absolutely no creativity at all at confronting a problem and deciding which equation plug numbers into. Now, if you're talking about A Beautiful Mind type shit, then maybe you've got something, but remember, John Nash was an economist.

I'm talking about getting an exam and looking at a problem and saying "hmm I have no idea how to solve this but someone figured out out before me so I can too" or getting to the point where you realize a problem can be solved in many different ways not just using the method your professor showed you in class. There is a point when you start to use all the math and science you were taught in school and then you want to learn more because it makes your job that much easier and gives you that much more power when attacking problems. It is a shame 99% of people never get to see that.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Okay, I'm interested here. Genuinely interested, not trying to be a pain or smart. Can you explain something practical that you learned in a management class which you later applied? You're obviously a very intelligent person and I'd be interested to see what influenced you so.

The main lesson I drew was how to effectively gather and coordinate information from staff. I had a staff of fifteen or so, and it was always a challenge to know what information I needed to know and what was irrelevant - the same with the information I needed to impart. A huge amount of time as a manager is spent communicating with staff. Going through a methodical practice of case analysis (what information is important to do my job? my employee's job?) proved to be an efficient allocation of my time, which allowed me to more efficiently delegate responsibilities. Using a uniform and objective approach allowed me to streamline things pretty quickly, and our team hit the ground running.

Without the prior coursework/training, my management strategy would have been largely trial and error, at which point my superior may have grown tired of waiting for me to find something that worked.

It's hard to explain, but the management course taught me to size up situations and staff in an environment that would have otherwise seemed unconstrained and messy.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov So in your opinion objective learning is somehow more intellectual than subjective? That memorization of fact trumps abstract thinking in daily life?

On this, that's the cunt thing about humanities. I wrote some poetry which I didn't think was particularly good, and the teacher marked it well. Or the reverse can be true.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox English and French BAs were combined,

So it was one B.A. and two majors... my students make that mistake all the time too. An undergraduate degree is typically 120 credits, composed of major requirements, general curricular requirements, and electives. To get a second degree you would generally need an additional 120 credits on top of the first, unless your University cuts some corners and awards incomplete degrees. It's the same reason why someone can't receive a B.A. in Political Science and a B.S. in Economics even if they satisfy the requirements of both.

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Originally posted by Zild I'm talking about getting an exam and looking at a problem and saying "hmm I have no idea how to solve this but someone figured out out before me so I can too" or getting to the point where you realize a problem can be solved in many different ways not just using the method your professor showed you in class. There is a point when you start to use all the math and science you were taught in school and then you want to learn more because it makes your job that much easier and gives you that much more power when attacking problems. It is a shame 99% of people never get to see that.

That's not creativity. You're just choosing from a range of options or a combination of them.

No one wonder you don't understand social sciences, you don't even know the meaning of creativity.