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Originally posted by DigiNut If the price goes up on account of supply and demand, that's one thing; if it goes up because of an arbitrary penalty imposed by the government, that's quite another. I'm surprised that you of all people would treat these two concepts as one and the same. Yet another example of government interference misrepresented or just misunderstood by the liberal bag-holders. I think grocery stores should charge for bags. I just don't think that the government should get any of it, not beyond normal sales taxes anyway.

He may be a twaat but I agree with every point in this post.....

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH If you try hard enough you'll notice that this isn't limited to just plastic bags. It's only 5c a bag and the cost has potential environmental benefits Stop crying like this is some "corporate conspiracy" just trying to screw the little man, cause it's so far from it.

dude honestly, wake up and start thinking clearly
1 - people are still using plastic bags, but now they are just forced to pay for them (not everyone carries the bulky re-usable bags with them every time they shop)
2 - now every store is "coveniently" offering their own brand of re-usable bags
(1 and 2 are just plain revenue makers for the stores)
3 - what mythical "potential environmental benefits" exactly are we talking about? real environmental benefits would be to offer recyclable paper groccery bags to customers (i.e. like LCBO always did), instead of charging 5 cents for plastic bags - instead, everyone is suddenly so freaking GREEN cos they are charging us for the use of something that we technically pay for anyway, when we buy their products

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Just surrender yourself to the rhythm,
With your hands up in the sky,
Feel the energy deep inside your system
And leave this world behind...

The environment is now being used as a cash grab. Just wait until the "smart" hydro meters take effect.

The "smart" is how smart the green scheme is. The green being your money of course.

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Originally posted by daves you cry wolf on so much stupid shit that one day you will have a really relevant point... and people are gonna look right past it and say "gee, this is the guy who bitches about the 5 cent bags and cannot make a paragraph without using the words "socialist" or "liberal" in it... what's his agenda?" learn to pick your battles.

again, its not the nickle so much as the point. Also this will lead to even more stupid BS as what has happened with other bans and laws that start out "insignificant" and then snowball out of control. Just look at smoking, pitbulls, and just about anything else spouting out of politicians mouths these days. As i said, water bottles, fast food containers, coffee cups etc are already on the radar. So where does it end? Are we destined to carry around bags, tupperware and cups everywhere we go or go hungry/thirsty? Of course not, which is why we will pay pay pay and they know it!

The day socialists and liberals stop acting like fools or are voted out of office you wont hear much of those words from me. Unfortunately it seems 99% of the time its those morons that are perpetrating this nonsense.

If Liberals in Canada were actually liberal, Id vote for them

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Originally posted by Jayx1 again, its not the nickle so much as the point. Also this will lead to even more stupid BS as what has happened with other bans and laws that start out "insignificant" and then snowball out of control.

What's comical is that your initial post had absolutely no reference to the government. The point was that you have to pay 5 cents for a bag.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Of course not, which is why we will pay pay pay and they know it!

Uh, no. Only idiots like YOU will pay....and then whine about it. That's what makes this all so hilarious.

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Originally posted by Skipper What's comical is that your initial post had absolutely no reference to the government. The point was that you have to pay 5 cents for a bag.

I guess these bans and silly laws are so common place now its almost assumed when one talks about certain topics.

A sad commentary to be honest

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Originally posted by jennypie Uh, no. Only idiots like YOU will pay....and then whine about it. That's what makes this all so hilarious.

So you plan on carrying a bag full of reusable dishes/cups/forks/knives etc every time you visit mcdonalds or tim hortons?

Interesting

I don't visit any of those places. I always pack my own lunch/eat my own food, and I use resealable containers. So yeah, I guess it IS interesting.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I guess these bans and silly laws are so common place now its almost assumed when one talks about certain topics. A sad commentary to be honest

oh okay, so we should just assume every post of yours is related to the government. Got it.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew dude honestly, wake up and start thinking clearly 1 - people are still using plastic bags, but now they are just forced to pay for them (not everyone carries the bulky re-usable bags with them every time they shop) 2 - now every store is "coveniently" offering their own brand of re-usable bags (1 and 2 are just plain revenue makers for the stores) 3 - what mythical "potential environmental benefits" exactly are we talking about? real environmental benefits would be to offer recyclable paper groccery bags to customers (i.e. like LCBO always did), instead of charging 5 cents for plastic bags - instead, everyone is suddenly so freaking GREEN cos they are charging us for the use of something that we technically pay for anyway, when we buy their products

OMG those assholes figured out another way to make some extra cash??

Did you bother reading Flecs post?? The fact that they're charging 5 cents a bag stops people from mindlessly asking for bags that they don't need. Sure you can play the "Oh but I use those bags for my garbage" even though Sobey's and Loblaw's bags are usually too small to fit in a regular garbage bin. That's how it has potential environmental benefits, aka. less mindless wasting.

If you honestly think you're being screwed over by this somehow then write a letter to the CEO/Marketing VP of Sobeys, Loblaws, No Frills, etc and tell them how insulting you think it is that they're trying to pass off an "obvious" cash grab as an environmentally-friendly program.

Last edited by infinity HiGH on May-20-2009 at 15:18