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Fledz
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quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Because they want to reinforce his willingness to promote the agenda of neutralizing American's power; they love what they've seen thus far and want to reward him for it. A strong America rocks a lot of boats and they know that Obama cares more about "global" admiration than his own country's best interests.

And that's exactly why he's actually half decent. Guess what? The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck about your position of power anymore because you no longer have it and the world has learned that America as a leader is a bad leader. You've fucked the entire God damn planet with your shitty economic policies and over the top military zeal, and now you want everyone to just forget your debts and start from scratch.

The sooner we stop relying on your dollar and looking to you for anything, the better.
He should be looking at a world perspective since the world should never again rotate around your asses like it used to. We need a global economic policy and a global approach to combat, not "Oooooh let's let the Yanks do what they want and go from there". It plain and simple doesn't work.

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Joss Weatherby
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OK is anyone else a little annoyed that Lira thought himself special enough to put his opinion in the title of the thread? COME NOW.

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Danny Ocean
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
And that's exactly why he's actually half decent. Guess what? The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck about your position of power anymore because you no longer have it and the world has learned that America as a leader is a bad leader. You've fucked the entire God damn planet with your shitty economic policies and over the top military zeal, and now you want everyone to just forget your debts and start from scratch.

The sooner we stop relying on your dollar and looking to you for anything, the better.
He should be looking at a world perspective since the world should never again rotate around your asses like it used to. We need a global economic policy and a global approach to combat, not "Oooooh let's let the Yanks do what they want and go from there". It plain and simple doesn't work.

*cue - "Waaaaah waaaaaah but we saved your asses in WW2"


fair enough, so in your opinion, out of the countries that can actually lead globally (for lack of a better way to put it at this time), what country is reliable to do so if the U.S fails miserably at it?
We know that if a country tries to rise up, the U.S will attack it somehow, the U.N's policies fail as you could see when Iraq got invaded. Honestly there is not much of a choice against U.S policies, like them or not. U.S is always interfering with other people's shit or making their own. Yeah, maybe they screw up a lot but who can do a better job at keeping this world slightly stable if not the U.S?

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No that's the issue with the current system we have. It shouldn't need to rely on one country, ever. We need one currency that is regulated by multiple other ones, but then again oil is what really drives the markets so once again we're dependent on one thing.
As for military, we have the UN and despite all the red tape and political wankery, at least it acts as a global voice.


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Originally posted by The17sss
Where was I "rabid" on this subject by the way?


american politics + your open mouth = rabies


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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
And that's exactly why he's actually half decent. Guess what? The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck about your position of power anymore because you no longer have it and the world has learned that America as a leader is a bad leader. You've fucked the entire God damn planet with your shitty economic policies and over the top military zeal, and now you want everyone to just forget your debts and start from scratch.

The sooner we stop relying on your dollar and looking to you for anything, the better.
He should be looking at a world perspective since the world should never again rotate around your asses like it used to. We need a global economic policy and a global approach to combat, not "Oooooh let's let the Yanks do what they want and go from there". It plain and simple doesn't work.

*cue - "Waaaaah waaaaaah but we saved your asses in WW2"


lol... yes let's be beholden to a "community of nations" lead by an entity such as the UN, which would no doubt make the world a better place. Lord, you're just a child with very little understanding of anything outside of your cozy little "America is evil" bubble.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
As for military, we have the UN and despite all the red tape and political wankery, at least it acts as a global voice.


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Danny Ocean
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Originally posted by Fledz
No that's the issue with the current system we have. It shouldn't need to rely on one country, ever. We need one currency that is regulated by multiple other ones, but then again oil is what really drives the markets so once again we're dependent on one thing.
As for military, we have the UN and despite all the red tape and political wankery, at least it acts as a global voice.


thats true, we rely on one country to do so much for the rest, because other countries who might have the potential to do so have completely different policies that would surely fuck it all up. Of course, the U.S might do that as well in the future, who knows.

I've always thought about having only one currency...but its kind of hard to implement that globally without major financial crisis that are bound to happen in certain countries, third world ones mainly with heavily devalued currency. Oil, well we depend on whatever arrangements the U.S has with other countries.
And military, U.S is strong, even though they got their asses kicked in Nam for sticking their face on other peoples business ...bottom line, i totally see your point of view and even agree with it, but...in the end i think we need to suck it up, the U.N yeah its a voice but i don't know, they don't deliver imo. This world is fucked, relies on money as a prime interest and fuck all who don't have it. ..i don't see many options which are feasible so...just go along with it until we die off i guess.

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quote:
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u know like in Nostradamus predictions, he's like the anti christ will come and show great charisma and signs of peace to get people on his side, then he will show his true colors. 17ssss will have the last laugh


i agree 100%.

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quote:
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lol... yes let's be beholden to a "community of nations" lead by an entity such as the UN, which would no doubt make the world a better place. Lord, you're just a child with very little understanding of anything outside of your cozy little "America is evil" bubble.

You're an idiot, no doubt confirmed by most of the PDD regulars who see your posts in there.

We have to get to a point where the world is governed by guess who? The world.

Yes, I'm a little child who hasn't lived in 3 different countries and experienced completely different views on everything from politics to how best to prepare a fish for dinner
Maybe you're the one who only has one isolated view?
Oh no I'm sorry, let's just allow America to run the world so we can stay in this wornderful Utopia we're in right now....oh wait.

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
thats true, we rely on one country to do so much for the rest, because other countries who might have the potential to do so have completely different policies that would surely fuck it all up. Of course, the U.S might do that as well in the future, who knows.

I've always thought about having only one currency...but its kind of hard to implement that globally without major financial crisis that are bound to happen in certain countries, third world ones mainly with heavily devalued currency. Oil, well we depend on whatever arrangements the U.S has with other countries.
And military, U.S is strong, even though they got their asses kicked in Nam for sticking their face on other peoples business ...bottom line, i totally see your point of view and even agree with it, but...in the end i think we need to suck it up, the U.N yeah its a voice but i don't know, they don't deliver imo. This world is fucked, relies on money as a prime interest and fuck all who don't have it. ..i don't see many options which are feasible so...just go along with it until we die off i guess.


I don't like the notion of one nation deciding for the rest. It's been proven that it doesn't work and it won't get us anywhere.

One currency for the entire world wouldn't work as the Euro is quickly proving. Sure the value of the Euro might be the same in England and Poland for example but if I'm earning 100 Euros in England as opposed to 2 Euros in Poland, then how is there equality there?
However, one currency designed purely for trading that can replace the US dollar could work. It's value would be determined by a mutlitude of other currencies so that it is never heavily skewed in the favour of one nation.
But like I said, at the end of the day a lot of the markets are very dependent on oil because that's what we buy and what we sell. We're too heavily influenced by just one thing.

The UN isn't perfect but it's a start. At least there's positive things we can take out of it.


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Godspeed.

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