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geroin
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do it at another place next time where they accept separate bills


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FunkyCrew
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do it at another place next time where they accept separate bills


yeah
or everyone leaving early should pay off their part of the bill + leave a receipt behind so we could just cross it off


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v-vaughn
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They wouldnt let us. I kinda thought it was dumb.




Sucks, hopefully you guys get everything sorted out! Sooooo wish I lived downtown so getting to these things would be easier!!

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Mortyman
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Sorry Kristina, I mis-calculated, I owe you another $10

And ya, just like Cam said, they brought around about 3-4 pounds of wings that no one ordered, then someone would just say they'll take it, I think they did that for a few beers as well.
And tbh, the entire time we were there, we didn't see "someone" pay, so unless they paid at the end after us, I'm not gonna mention any names. But $67 is alot, I'll make up for another $10 of that since I know that was my fault, sorry again Kris, you're wings are on me next time

It was nice to see everyone again though, outside of the club. We def need a new place though, as much as the wings are good!!
Oz and I went to some place on King and Bathurst I think... like one of the oldest pubs in Toronto. Last time we went they were showing a Leafs vs North Stars game from 1980


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Endlesswave
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If we do go back there I say we essentially cross off names.

I had one pound of wings ($5) and 4 beers (3 were $4 pints plus the last one was $5 I think so $20). Put in $45 (with the added extra amount). Should have been way more than enough. If it's not let me know.

Next time let's do Duff's on College like last time.


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DigiNut
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do it at another place next time where they accept separate bills

No restaurant will give separate bills to 20+ people. Some will do groups of 4 or 5, but not a tiny place like C&D when everybody is moving around. I don't really fault them for that. I fault them for their generally lousy service, impossible-to-read bill, non-voiding of canceled items, and blatant scamming (i.e. calculating service charge on the after-tax amount).

Even still, a few more things had to happen to be more than $100 short. Some people forgot the tax and/or service charge, and at least one person either stiffed completely or didn't pay for something expensive (like a pitcher).

The more people you have in total, and the more spread-out the times that people leave, the worse it seems to get at the end of the night. Sushi night worked out really well because it was a small group (~10 people?) and most of us left at the same time.

Assuming you can't control the group size and you're stuck with one big bill, the best strategy is usually to have anyone leaving early settle with the cashier and bring back the receipt. Absolutely NO dropping cash on the table and taking off, no matter how generous it seems. It's not just to help find out if somebody stiffed - it also tells you if the restaurant is ripping you off (i.e. if there are several unexplained items on the bill).

So yeah, I know it's not up to me but I say next time should be any or all of:
- New venue
- Physically separate tables, if not separate bills
- Everybody gets a receipt before leaving.


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DigiNut
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And ya, just like Cam said, they brought around about 3-4 pounds of wings that no one ordered, then someone would just say they'll take it, I think they did that for a few beers as well.

Well, I took one of them - but only because I had ordered the same flavour and they never brought the duplicate. I ordered 2 pounds, claimed the first mystery pound, and they only brought the 2nd one later.

But I do remember that they got the order for the 2nd flavour wrong the first time and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they "forgot" to void the first one that came.


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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
No restaurant will give separate bills to 20+ people. Some will do groups of 4 or 5, but not a tiny place like C&D when everybody is moving around. I don't really fault them for that. I fault them for their generally lousy service, impossible-to-read bill, non-voiding of canceled items, and blatant scamming (i.e. calculating service charge on the after-tax amount).



umm. if a giant club can do separate billing while running a tab so can some restaurant. if they wanna get paid and get a proper tip, they will do separate bills.

Old Post Dec-02-2009 23:51  Poland
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geroin
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Well, I took one of them - but only because I had ordered the same flavour and they never brought the duplicate. I ordered 2 pounds, claimed the first mystery pound, and they only brought the 2nd one later.

But I do remember that they got the order for the 2nd flavour wrong the first time and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they "forgot" to void the first one that came.


no i agree we didn't even have that many people
woah 10 people at the same table, big deal, do you really have to bring 4-5 different plates of stuff we didn't order? lol
next time we should just go somewhere else.. (and have separate bills)
i left a 15 buck tip for 3 of us and i did confirm with the waitress if the wings were half price.. someone must have stiffed..


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StereoPrincess
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whoa. sounds like a mess.

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Endlesswave
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Well, I took one of them - but only because I had ordered the same flavour and they never brought the duplicate. I ordered 2 pounds, claimed the first mystery pound, and they only brought the 2nd one later.

But I do remember that they got the order for the 2nd flavour wrong the first time and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they "forgot" to void the first one that came.



Yeah exactly. The service was a mess, they probably added some of the stuff orders that came but nobody took or someone stiffed. I tried to order wings 2x, no luck until after when my beer came (even then getting 2nd or 3rd beer was tough, damnz)

New place, we could do seperate bills but in smaller groups, easier that way obviously.


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Mach X
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You guys are fighting too much... I don't like it....

I'm to far away for these TOTA food nights... but you should just implement a new procedure...

Whomever starts the roll call, treats everyone else...

Simple!


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