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Originally posted by Theresa Also... when I was 8 and moreso when I was 9, I was absolutely exploring my sexuality. That is when I started to masturbate, and my girlfriends and I would explore our bodies (not together). This was the age I stopped playing with toys and became more interested in boys and being 'cool'. We would stuff our bras and pretend we were 12 and 13 and talk to the boys at the playground. Maybe I am unique, but I knew A LOT of other kids who were doing exactly the same things I was. I also know that this is happening today. I have worked with kids in summer camps who as young as 7 and 8 who were talking about sexual things, some saying they had seen porn and wanted to know about it etc. No matter how much you want to pretend children are sweet and innocent, they aren't. Pregnant girls at 10 and 11 is obvious proof that this is the case and it's absolutely foolish to stick our heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening.

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Originally posted by Theresa Also... when I was 8 and moreso when I was 9, I was absolutely exploring my sexuality. That is when I started to masturbate, and my girlfriends and I would explore our bodies (not together).

Be honest... you explored together.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by PivotTechno I care, you obviously don't. Which means that your "point on the whole" is pretty much useless rhetoric.

No, you’re just bringing in random complaints that aren’t relevant to the particular topic we were discussing. Typical hippy arguing for argument’s sake.

Typically dismissive of someone whose sum life experience can be calculated by the number of books they've read.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno Typically dismissive of someone whose sum life experience can be calculated by the number of books they've read.

Yeah, you’re a real library.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno Typically dismissive of someone whose sum life experience can be calculated by the number of books they've read.

PKC knows truth doesn't comes from books. It comes from the gut!

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Originally posted by Theresa On the same train of logic, kids don't give a shit about French, or Math either, but we teach it to them anyway.

Yes, but Math and Piano compared to Sex? That's ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Theresa If we teach about sexuality and sex earlier, it wont be a taboo/funny subject to them because it will be like every other subject. It will get ignored (or paid attention to), just as much as any other subject. It seems that we get through to a lot of kids that age with math, so I am pretty confident we would get through to them about sex too.

Unfortunately, kids will be kids. We can't turn them into freakishly mature individuals unless we strip them of their childhood by introducing to them adult-oriented materials. Do you know why those other subjects aren't taboo/funny? Because they don't involve any human understanding of what most will, because of their tender age, invariably find funny and awkward.

And you keep using that word, "taboo"? Sex is no longer taboo.

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Originally posted by Theresa You're basically saying "these kids don't give a shit, so don't bother", and with that attitude, you might as well say that you shouldn't be educating kids at that age at all.

They shouldn't give a shit about it. Sure, they can broach the subject , then go on with their lives. The reason why we have all these 10/11 year olds so sexually active is, I'm sure, because of that oversexed media. So you propose that we install programs that are generally designed for adolescents at the ages 15/16 to 6/7 years old in school to battle a problem that we humans initially created?

And, please, don't give me that "ideal" world tripe. I know kids are not the sweet innocent angels their parents make them out to be. But it would behoove the parenting community to grow a back and start tackling that subject that they, as parents, are responsible for.

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Originally posted by R.j. They shouldn't give a shit about it. Sure, they can broach the subject , then go on with their lives. The reason why we have all these 10/11 year olds so sexually active is, I'm sure, because of that oversexed media. So you propose that we install programs that are generally designed for adolescents at the ages 15/16 to 6/7 years old in school to battle a problem that we humans initially created?

If you read the OP, all these kids get taught at the age of 6 is the name of male and female genitalia. They don't actually learn about sexual intercourse until around the time they'll be hitting puberty, which in my opinion is the right time to do it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If you read the OP, all these kids get taught at the age of 6 is the name of male and female genitalia. They don't actually learn about sexual intercourse until around the time they'll be hitting puberty, which in my opinion is the right time to do it.

Yes, but Theresa is proposing that obviously isn't the answer, seeing as how we have all these oversexed kiddies running around; that these programs, touching on sexual intercourse/masturbation/etc. need to be introduced much earlier.

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