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Originally posted by nefardec he is sometimes, but as i said - exactly as sloppy as he wants to be.

I'd draw an analogy to Trey Anastasio from Phish here, but I think it'd be lost on this audience.

Suffice to say, the notion that he's sometimes at his best when he's "sloppy" is an oft discussed discussion in that scene as well.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid We are only talking about it now because you asked me if I though he had any. That's not at all what I was referring to when I first quoted you.

You know, it's much harder to bullshit, backtrack and flat out lie when your argument is written down for posterity. Your words when you first quoted me:

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Originally posted by wotyzoid Not everyone has the same idealistic views as you or what you claim to be the ideal of electronic music. That may have been the general consensus in its beginning, I don't know, but progress results from other means. Electronic dance music has evolved way beyond your black and white view that it is all about "disregarding of ideas of technical virtuosity."

So right from the start, you quoted one very specific thing I said and then incorrectly collated it with a different thing I said in another post replying to another member. You seem to think that when I made those three points about "idiot logic" they were all part of some grand attack on Theo Parrish and all had relevance to him, when actually they were a grand attack on idiots with temporal, contextless opinions about electronic music. I brought this up in a discussion about Theo Parrish because Mark Anthony said:

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I think people graviate towards [Theo Parrish] in an era where everything is very tight

I've seen so many people on forums or in interviews say that modern music is "too quantized", "too tight" and thus consequently "sounds soulless". Again, the whole point is that sequenced electronic music has always sounded incredibly tight, and unless you're an aficionado of live unsequenced music who's just happened to wander onto an EDM forum it's fucking ludicrous to suddenly start complaining that things have become too tight, as if the stupidly minor difference between MIDI timing on hardware in the '80s and '90s and the timing on modern DAW's is where soul is lost and found.

The other points I made were similar examples of this bizarre logic formulated by people who started listening to dance music at a specific time, and through reasons of nostalgia have ossified certain preconceptions about how the music should be made and played (on hardware and on vinyl) and thus inadvertantly contradicted the ethos that brought their favourite music into existence in the first place. The larger point is that people seem to think electronic music has terminally declined and the reasons all have to do with the processes that make it - too computerised, too "easy", too "soulless". I think they are completely wrong. This is one of my "unpopular opinions on electronica, not giving a fuck", which the thread is about.

So again, this wasn't directly about Theo Parrish or his music at all, but rather a larger discourse that involves Parrish and that someone in this thread touched upon. Maybe Theo does think his music sounds more "soulful" for reverse-engineered looseness, but I don't know that and that's why I didn't say that. I did say that lots of people in the scene think that, which in my opinion is idiotic.

In conclusion, now I've absolutely spelled out my position in bright neon lights I have absolutely no interest in discussing Theo Parrish any further with you and I think you have nothing valuable to say about any of this, so can you please stop replying to my posts?

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I tend to agree. I dislike the fact that many people today are making "throwback" music. To me EDM was always about moving forward, pushing the boundaries, the next thing. I don't think it's good that so many people try to replicate older music these days. That's not what EDM is about to me.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I tend to agree. I dislike the fact that many people today are making "throwback" music. To me EDM was always about moving forward, pushing the boundaries, the next thing. I don't think it's good that so many people try to replicate older music these days. That's not what EDM is about to me.

Entirely fair.

Quoted, and interesting to me, because I feel exactly the opposite, with my only supporting argument being "because I like it."

Which also happens to be what the "dubstep" kids tell me.

I've been getting really into the analog sounding stuff, whether it's new or old lately as well.. 909 and 808 drumkits, cuz I like it.

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I dig the throwback stuff, but am also looking forward to when everybody breaks away from early Chicago house and starts mining epic house and mid 90's progressive house for ideas.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch I dig the throwback stuff, but am also looking forward to when everybody breaks away from early Chicago house and starts mining epic house and mid 90's progressive house for ideas.

That'll only happen when 90s prog and epic house become cool. No idea when that'll ever happen, maybe 15 years?

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch I dig the throwback stuff, but am also looking forward to when everybody breaks away from early Chicago house and starts mining epic house and mid 90's progressive house for ideas.

that's not going to happen - chicago house has been mined consistently since the first time it was ever heard. it's the original house.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I tend to agree. I dislike the fact that many people today are making "throwback" music. To me EDM was always about moving forward, pushing the boundaries, the next thing. I don't think it's good that so many people try to replicate older music these days. That's not what EDM is about to me.

Definitely. I hear Roland percussion (rimshots, shitty, poorly placed handclaps) in every freaking deep house track that comes out these days. And there's never a shortage of bandwagon dj's charting the shit out of them on Juno. The music is boring as fuck, good sound system or not its just a freaking hype barring the few exceptional exceptions. Here today, gone with the wind.