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Az
took me all the way back



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics

quote:
Originally posted by HardKiller
I like his work, especially his last album. But of course "Nobody listens to techno" is a bad joke

it would be, but he didn't say that, he said nobody listen to techno, there is a difference, a big one

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MezzicanTrancEr
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Registered: May 2002
Location: TX TA #30 boo yeah

First off, saying he sucks because he said "Nobody listen(S) to techno" is retarded. At least have something solid to say when you diss someone who is obviously doing something MOST OF US COULD NEVER EVER DO. People take things to damn literally nowadays....He's from DETROIT! Detroit has a long history with techno - I doubt he serisouly believes that. Oh and about Moby - WHO WOULDN'T make fun of him? He's so geeky you gotta admit he's just asking for it...He's like the kid that shows up to the playground wearing highwater pants, thick ass glasses with a damn pocket protector who happens to make music...I'd kick his ass and make fun of him too...

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dvd
i dont like prog



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: daly city, ca

hehe yeah i agree, i'd make fun of moby too. most ppl who listens to moby are like 40 year olds and up. and that 'we're all made of stars' damn it scared me.


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biznology
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Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by MezzicanTrancEr
First off, saying he sucks because he said "Nobody listen(S) to techno" is retarded. At least have something solid to say when you diss someone who is obviously doing something MOST OF US COULD NEVER EVER DO. People take things to damn literally nowadays....He's from DETROIT! Detroit has a long history with techno - I doubt he serisouly believes that. Oh and about Moby - WHO WOULDN'T make fun of him? He's so geeky you gotta admit he's just asking for it...He's like the kid that shows up to the playground wearing highwater pants, thick ass glasses with a damn pocket protector who happens to make music...I'd kick his ass and make fun of him too...


mike youre so bored arent you? haha|


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biznology
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Registered: Dec 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by decode
Why u talking about rap music when this forum is clearly a electronic music forum


It says 'MUSIC DISCUSSION'!

i always fail to understand why no one follows that guideline...even the mods sometimes...i guess trance is the only musical genre out there|


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SiM PeµRf
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Registered: Jul 2002
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i personaly think that he does suck, and so does his movie (no history) but, that's only personal, i can totally understand the people who like him.....
but if he thinks techno sucks, well fuck him...


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musicaddict
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Cali4ya

quote:
Originally posted by Enfuse Dub
Eminem is a Fuckin Talent. He works hard to have what he has. Not only is he talented but hes in the "game" for the right reasons. Rap sucks without him, there isnt shit to listen to besides Eminem and Rakim, and some Nas.


and some of Nas? Are you kidding me?! Eminem is good but NAS is up there. It's all about NAS


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Xquisite
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

there's non commerical hip hop to listen to, like Hieroglyphics, J5, Blackalicious, Talib Kweli, etc etc. They may be turning commerical, but definitely nto as much as Eminem.

as for nas, he's a sellout. He was good but now it's about the money with Murder.

Eminem is a good free styler. Props to that. But he's definitely not one of the best. As for the attention he gets from the media, it's for two reasons: 1) he's WHITE, and 2) spouting hate/life in his lyrics.


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musicaddict
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Cali4ya

quote:
Originally posted by Xquisite


as for nas, he's a sellout. He was good but now it's about the money with Murder.


damn man, why did he joined murder inc for. damn that ja rule guy damn irv damn murder inc. Nas is Better off alone. What do you mean he was good? HE IS STiLL THAT GOOD! but im not so sure about his future stuff coz of the murder influent


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they judge you coz u aint rap (haha)
thas alota smacks u told and thats that
in the streets they nicknamed you fag
little wanna be mc that cant seem to see that you can never be who u think u gon be..see that? guess not? coz u dont fuckin rap!!

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ALF
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland, USA

Eminem has payed his dues. Going into a predominantly black music genre and being able to take down and earn respect from the best of them in the underground hip-hop scene is miraculous. To many avid listeners, making it big in the underground scene gets far greater respect than succeeding in the commercial arena. He's definitely not a "fixed package" by any means. He worked his way from the ground up into what he is now. Some people take his lyrics too personally. It's all entertainment. Music is to entertain.

As far as the commercial rap subject goes, all commercial rap sucks balls...anybody that knows hip-hop knows that these bling-bling commercial rappers of today are all in it for the money. That's not what true hip-hop is all about. Stop listening to the radio and turn off MTV. It all lies in the underground.

Now is Eminem considered commercial? Yes. But the flipside of it is that he holds his own in the lyrics department (not that he doesn't already, but he's been so much better in the past). You can look at his pre-commercial days and write that up as an integral part of his "resume." I can't think of any rapper alive that has worked their way up to the level of success the way Eminem has. The last good reputable rapper to hit the commercial scene close to Eminem's level was Notorious BIG. Anyone who says otherwise definitely does not know their hip-hop.

Much like trance, you can only listen to the best hip-hop if you look for it. Listen to the radio and you will get crap like Nelly and Cash Money Millionaires. That's bullshit if you ask me. Hip-hop gets the same rep that trance does...look at DJ Sammy. Is that what good trance really is? Cheese? It's not, but because of its exposure, that's what people perceive trance as; a cheesy catchy "techno" tune with female vocals. For some people, listening to lyrics, let alone learning to hear the genius of a good lyricist, is difficult, much like listening to a trance song with repetitive beats and no singing. With any type of music, you learn to like it.

-ALF - loves trance and hip-hop equally

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ALF
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Xquisite as for nas, he's a sellout. He was good but now it's about the money with Murder.


Hehe...his worst career move since putting out "Oochie Wally". He was definitely better by himself.

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musicaddict
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Cali4ya

quote:
Originally posted by ALF
Eminem has payed his dues. Going into a predominantly black music genre and being able to take down and earn respect from the best of them in the underground hip-hop scene is miraculous. To many avid listeners, making it big in the underground scene gets far greater respect than succeeding in the commercial arena. He's definitely not a "fixed package" by any means. He worked his way from the ground up into what he is now. Some people take his lyrics too personally. It's all entertainment. Music is to entertain.

As far as the commercial rap subject goes, all commercial rap sucks balls...anybody that knows hip-hop knows that these bling-bling commercial rappers of today are all in it for the money. That's not what true hip-hop is all about. Stop listening to the radio and turn off MTV. It all lies in the underground.

Now is Eminem considered commercial? Yes. But the flipside of it is that he holds his own in the lyrics department (not that he doesn't already, but he's been so much better in the past). You can look at his pre-commercial days and write that up as an integral part of his "resume." I can't think of any rapper alive that has worked their way up to the level of success the way Eminem has. The last good reputable rapper to hit the commercial scene close to Eminem's level was Notorious BIG. Anyone who says otherwise definitely does not know their hip-hop.

Much like trance, you can only listen to the best hip-hop if you look for it. Listen to the radio and you will get crap like Nelly and Cash Money Millionaires. That's bullshit if you ask me. Hip-hop gets the same rep that trance does...look at DJ Sammy. Is that what good trance really is? Cheese? It's not, but because of its exposure, that's what people perceive trance as; a cheesy catchy "techno" tune with female vocals. For some people, listening to lyrics, let alone learning to hear the genius of a good lyricist, is difficult, much like listening to a trance song with repetitive beats and no singing. With any type of music, you learn to like it.

-ALF - loves trance and hip-hop equally


I agree with ya ALF.

I dont know why I've never had interest in NOtorious BIG. Prolly coz he stole's pac style, but then again who didnt steal a "little" bit of pac's style


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they judge you coz u aint rap (haha)
thas alota smacks u told and thats that
in the streets they nicknamed you fag
little wanna be mc that cant seem to see that you can never be who u think u gon be..see that? guess not? coz u dont fuckin rap!!

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