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Psionic
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
the complicated part about this is that Hamas will coninue to terrorize Israel even if Arafat is gone.


Word. Even if Arafat begins to condemn Hamas and tries to get them to stop, they will continue their attacks.

Old Post Sep-22-2003 21:19  Israel
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Izzy
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Location: TX TA #5

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Well as my recollection recalls () Sharon has not been tried to accused by THE international war crimes tribunal. There was a case however in Belgium against Sharon, after Belgian national law allowed it to try foreign nationals for crimes commited against International law (a national law that says basically we have the right to interpert and enforce international law however we want). Here Sharon was supposed to be tried for war crimes against this Belgian law, specifically for his involvement in Lebanon in 82.

However, this Belgian law create so much international and national contrevorsy it was just a matter of time it would be overturned as it was.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._usa_lawsuit_dc

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A Belgian court Wednesday threw out a case against President Bush for war crimes in Iraq in a saga that had strained relations between Belgium and the United States.


The appeals court in Brussels also dismissed cases against Israeli Prime Minister Arial Sharon and Israeli General Amos Yaron on grounds that the country's courts did not have the jurisdiction to bring them to trial, according to a court clerk.
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tathi
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good on Belgium for tryin'

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caddyshack
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Location: Lansing
Re: Israel or Palestine?

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
After much debate in the chill out room this year regarding this unfortunate conflict in the middle east.. whats your official stance on the situation? I for one hope that both sides live in peace... but i do not agree with the agressive and murderous tactics that the Isreali army utilizes to "weed out terroists"....I feel for the Palestinians who have to defend themselves with rocks.... yet i do not agree with the suicide bombings that certain vulnerable and ignorant youths carry out in the name of "Allah". In any event.. innocent people are dying... most of them Palestinians... and that is what concerns me the most. In my opinion, the Isreali army is just as bad as any other "military super power" and should re-evaluate the value of a life. Hate breeds hate.

I have a lot more to write... but i will leave that in the discussion to follow within the thread.

Your Opinions?


if people were coming from canada and killing themselves because they hate me my peolpe and my country then i would ask my country to put a stop to it at any cost, i don't want to worry about my life while eating at a pizza parlor for f*** sake. isreal has been dealing with this shit since the day they became a state. its about time they lost their temper! and their is no point for these piss poor countries to attack them because they will always be backed by the US.

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tathi
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moron

Old Post Sep-26-2003 06:03  Australia
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The creator of this thread has assumed an identity for a country (which doesn't exist), and posed it in a question against another country, to which you all answered.

There is NO such place as Palestine! There never will be, not because I don't want it, but because the terror that runs through the veins of the Palestinian leadership is all but rational and logical enough to actually want "peace in the Middle East".

Unless the PA/PLO get their act together, (which means the ever so pressing challenge of removing terror bosses from their positions), then don't expect Israel to make any concessions, or even halt their military incursions - without which, many more innocent civilians would have their life taken away by a brainwashed-drugged up puppet of Palestinian manipulation.

We must put a stop to the incitement these people project amongst their own which not only kills Israeli's, but Arabs alike.

Pathetic isn't it... the fact that some of you chose a country sponsored by terror, over a country trying to stay alive by combating this terror on a regular basis.

For those of you who voted "Palestine", may the day come when you walk through the streets of your city only to witness a terror attack by a neighbouring society. Perhaps then your views will change.
Perhaps then you will realize that direct targeting of civilians is simply cold blooded mass murder!

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Cyrus King
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Oh god...more noob idiot vibers


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Viber
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Oh god...more noob idiot vibers


fuck you,you anti-israel stupid imbecile deepshit.
you are such an idiot for still not getting my opinions..
your opinions cant even be called opinions becuse they are soo stupid ,maybe you can call them randoom thoughts on drugs or something,your solushion to the problem is pathetic,your disreaspect and misunderstanding about the israeli army compared to other armies is a shameful thing,your understanding of war and military has a lack and your time after time ignoring from facts can make a 3 yrs old laugh

and last but not least - you still dont get what the palastinians really wants.

Last edited by Viber on Sep-26-2003 at 23:42

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Toscher Sedai
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quote:
Originally posted by tathi
Is this an educated hypothesis, or another ignorant conjecture? If there was a lack of international media in the middle east, would Israel destroy all of the surrounding nations?


Another pathetic conjecture, how do we know Israel is not planning “anyhting against another country such as US?”


This is so stupid i don't even know where to start. The Israeli government has demonstrated to the international community time and time again that it has no respect for human life. Why is Sharon being pursued for for war crimes?


And where did you learn this? CNN? Bible study group? Or while playing dungeons and dragons? You have no idea of the anguish and despair flowing through their minds. And what of the Israeli terrorists?


Ahhh, so this was the real reason the war was incited, they wanted equal opportunity for both sexes, wait a minute, of all nations in the middle east, Iraq was one of the most tolerant for women in positions of respect and power. What of The USA's ally Kuwait, misogynic? yes / no? Did you know it states multiple times in the bible that woman are not aloud to be in positions of respect and power?


The most populous Muslim nation in the world is Indonesia, another of the USA's allies. The Indonesian government is also responsible for more many crimes against humanity.


Again you contradict yourself, the generalisation just shows how racist your ideals are. If we are looking for morons, why not look at the puppet figurehead “leading” of the USA?


haha, i knew it, I must be arguing with a christian


Why? Because it's not as easy, the parallels between Sharon and Hitler are very overt. Yasser Arafat was awarded the nobel peace prize, Sharon is being pursued for war crimes.


Why are they in this boxing match?


You're an indoctrinated fool, you're right nothing can help you, and i pity you for that.


I couldn't help it haha


I don't have to, you have given me multiple examples of your ignorance and how you regard the human life of certain races and cultures higher then others


Hahaha, look at your own sig


You must be affiliated with the Green Party. You're comments are quite ignorant and there's no use arguing with you. By the look of it, you must be a teenager, if not... On the contrary, you're quite a funny guy...person. Your sarcasm is entertaining.


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Viber
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i have gain respect to the people of the united states today(or at least some of them..)

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tathi
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quote:
Arafuct
Pathetic isn't it... the fact that some of you chose a country sponsored by terror, over a country trying to stay alive by combating this terror on a regular basis.

Yeah, i also find it pathetic that people would chose Israel, a country sponsoring terrorism over Palestine a country raped pillaged and oppressed and just trying to stay alive


quote:
Toscher Sedai
You must be affiliated with the Green Party. You're comments are quite ignorant and there's no use arguing with you. By the look of it, you must be a teenager, if not... On the contrary, you're quite a funny guy...person. Your sarcasm is entertaining.

haha, well i suppose i am a teenager: 18, but remember this, i am smarter than you and at least i'm not living in my mommies basement playing dungeons and dragons

calling me ignorant after you get owned as a reason to stop arguing with me, hehe "wd" sore loser

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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by Viber
fuck you,you anti-israel stupid imbecile deepshit.
you are such an idiot for still not getting my opinions..
your opinions cant even be called opinions becuse they are soo stupid ,maybe you can call them randoom thoughts on drugs or something,your solushion to the problem is pathetic,your disreaspect and misunderstanding about the israeli army compared to other armies is a shameful thing,your understanding of war and military has a lack and your time after time ignoring from facts can make a 3 yrs old laugh

and last but not least - you still dont get what the palastinians really wants.


HHAHHAAHAH.. thanks for the laugh!


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