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| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
where to begin.... jesus... |
Funny, you've spent the better part of the weekend typing extensive posts rebutting my points and all of a sudden you haven't got anything to say. I suppose it's kind of hard when you've contradicted yourself into a corner.
| quote: | Originally posted by Colin Andrews
Believe it or not, a lot of people just want performance and don’t want to pay for interior refinement. Refined interiors cost a lot of MONEY. So if i want the same power, and refinement, what are my choices? A Ferrari? A Lamborghini? Those cars cost over double what even the most expensive Corvettes cost. I love that you brought up the Evo and STI. Both of those cars are SHIT BOXES with good engines. I've driven both and the interior refinement is simply awful, the Evo in particular. You act as if every single car has to be excellent at everything. It must have a good interior, it must have good performance, it must be comfortable, it must employ ground breaking technology. Get real, different cars appeal to different people at different price points and in different configurations. |
I wasn't hanging my hat on interiors. I agree, Japanese interiors are generally woeful. Their top performance cars are still better than a Corvette though.
| quote: | Originally posted by Colin Andrews
Buying a performance car and caring about mileage is simply hilarious to me. I made a point of illustrating that engine size does not correlate directly to how fuel efficient a car is. That was my only point. Anyone who's buying a car they intend to drive fast, or on a race track, or get performance out of, should not be worried about mileage. My old Golf GTI got great mileage, over 32mpg on the highway, but when I tracked it, it got 5mpg. Again, performance cars all get shitty mileage if they are used like intended. End of story. |
There is a difference between making a fast car and completely disregarding environmental impact and making a fast car then trying to limit it's environmental impact. Look at the gains Porsche has made over the past five years with emissions.
| quote: | Originally posted by Colin Andrews
The GTR costs almost as much as the Corvette, but its service costs are outrageous. Service intervals cost thousands of dollars. Tracking the car (and all I've heard about people tracking them is the car going into limp mode, or the transmission overheating after a few laps) requires a mandatory service otherwise your warranty gets voided. It also has poor support from its producing company, IE illustrating an ability the car has and then proclaiming to its owners "yeah but if you use this feature, we won’t warranty the car. They even went so far as to remov the launch control entirely from the next production year. Also, if anything goes wrong its catastrophically expensive to fix. There was a thread on a UK GTR owner’s forum about a tiny rear end impact that cost the owner 10,000 pounds to fix. ONE FIFTH of the cars value, there goes your price advantage on the GTR. The Evo and STI are great cars to drive, but as I explained earlier, they are GARBAGE to sit in. |
Okay, I wasn't aware of that. Point taken. However, my original point remains that there are cars with similar performance that cost roughly the same as the Corvette; the WRX and the Evo X.
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