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Originally posted by aconcagua2002 Whoever wrote the original post is an idiot. If someone believes in Santa Claus and the tooth ferry we'd put them in a padded room. Yet we tolerate these religious freaks! Get your head out of your arse. The only reason you believe in God (the fact that you write G-d shows how brainwashed and pious you are) is because you are a brainless moron and believed everything your parents told you. Your arguments are totally silly. Take a course in probability and statistics. Try to comprehend the idea of conditional probabilities and also look at the idea of Bayesian statistics. Shit, how old are you man? You may have sat in a bology class but I don't think your brain was working the day they explained evolution. Even if there is a higher being, do you really think it is the God (G-d) that you read in your holy text? For crying out loud all religious texts are just a bunch of made up stories we wrote b/c we were primitive and needed a set of "rules" to help us understand the world and live peacefully together. (There's a simple game-theoretic explanation for the creation of religion, which is probably a good first approximation for why religion arose -- study game theory.) Why do I waste my breath? Some people are hopeless -- I know the dude who wrote the original message will never change cuz he's been brainwashed since childhood.

you have missed the point of why peolpe are religious (for the most part anyway) ...for me it has almost NOTHING to do with "rules" or trying to "live peacefully together" ... if you could understand the real reasons why people are religious (judging by your post it would almost be imposible for you to do so) then i would like to see your new argument as to why its bs.

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Originally posted by aconcagua2002 Whoever wrote the original post is an idiot. If someone believes in Santa Claus and the tooth ferry we'd put them in a padded room. Yet we tolerate these religious freaks! Get your head out of your arse. The only reason you believe in God (the fact that you write G-d shows how brainwashed and pious you are) is because you are a brainless moron and believed everything your parents told you. Your arguments are totally silly. Take a course in probability and statistics. Try to comprehend the idea of conditional probabilities and also look at the idea of Bayesian statistics. Shit, how old are you man? You may have sat in a bology class but I don't think your brain was working the day they explained evolution. Even if there is a higher being, do you really think it is the God (G-d) that you read in your holy text? For crying out loud all religious texts are just a bunch of made up stories we wrote b/c we were primitive and needed a set of "rules" to help us understand the world and live peacefully together. (There's a simple game-theoretic explanation for the creation of religion, which is probably a good first approximation for why religion arose -- study game theory.) Why do I waste my breath? Some people are hopeless -- I know the dude who wrote the original message will never change cuz he's been brainwashed since childhood.

If you claim someone to be ignorant, you fit in the same wagon, or worst Id say..

and like you said, Theories, Theories and Theories.. does that mean is a law?

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Whoever wrote the original post is an idiot. If someone believes in Santa Claus and the tooth ferry we'd put them in a padded room. Yet we tolerate these religious freaks! Get your head out of your arse. The only reason you believe in God (the fact that you write G-d shows how brainwashed and pious you are) is because you are a brainless moron and believed everything your parents told you. Your arguments are totally silly. Take a course in probability and statistics. Try to comprehend the idea of conditional probabilities and also look at the idea of Bayesian statistics. Shit, how old are you man? You may have sat in a bology class but I don't think your brain was working the day they explained evolution. Even if there is a higher being, do you really think it is the God (G-d) that you read in your holy text? For crying out loud all religious texts are just a bunch of made up stories we wrote b/c we were primitive and needed a set of "rules" to help us understand the world and live peacefully together. (There's a simple game-theoretic explanation for the creation of religion, which is probably a good first approximation for why religion arose -- study game theory.) Why do I waste my breath? Some people are hopeless -- I know the dude who wrote the original message will never change cuz he's been brainwashed since childhood.

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if you could understand the real reasons why people are religious

why people are religious:
- indoctrinated into believing it as a child
- afraid of death
- idiot
- weak of mind
- people who feel insignificant and need to be apart of something larger
- to have sex with young boys

Wow, that's a lot of religion bashing! Well, here's an interesting article on the behaviour of the big bang singularity and why it didn't immediately collapse into a super-massive black hole for anyone interested.

http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_ques...umber=1&catID=3

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Originally posted by occrider Wow, that's a lot of religion bashing!

Yes, I'm starting to like this discussion more and more

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Originally posted by tathi why people are religious: - indoctrinated into believing it as a child - afraid of death - idiot - weak of mind - people who feel insignificant and need to be apart of something larger - to have sex with young boys

crappo ...! now i have to respond to that


well in my case lets see...

why people are religious:
- indoctrinated into believing it as a child

nope sorry, i thought religion was bs as a child

- afraid of death

i dont know what you mean by this ...do you mean 'im afraid my life is going to be over so i believe in heaven to feel better' or 'im afraid of death because is it scary, and therefore need to be religious'

in either case i dont really think im afraid of death because i can say if i died right now i would have had no regrets, and i would have been able to say that before i became religious

- idiot

if you mean stupid person, then no... i am going to USC

- weak of mind

interesting it depend on what you mean by weak, weak mind meaning conformist, weak mind meaning idiot, or weak mind meaning fearful

- people who feel insignificant and need to be apart of something larger

i dont feel insignificant nor did i feel insignificant before i accepted god. (if thats what you meant)

- to have sex with young boys

yeah some people i guess... (not including me)




but still you havent found the reason...

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nope sorry, i thought religion was bs as a child

child is metaphorical for someone who has the credulity of an infant, like it or not you were indoctrinated as a child. I find it hard to believe that someone who knew the truth as a child could be proselytized when they are older

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if you mean stupid person, then no... i am going to USC

USC means nothing to me, i have trouble respecting the intellectual capacity of anyone religious, don't take it personally

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interesting it depend on what you mean by weak, weak mind meaning conformist, weak mind meaning idiot, or weak mind meaning fearful

weak of mind meaning christian ;-)

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but still you havent found the reason...

I havn't found your reason, to do that i need to know a little more about you

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Originally posted by tathi child is metaphorical for someone who has the credulity of an infant, like it or not you were indoctrinated as a child. I find it hard to believe that someone who knew the truth as a child could be proselytized when they are older USC means nothing to me, i have trouble respecting the intellectual capacity of anyone religious, don't take it personally weak of mind meaning christian ;-) I havn't found your reason, to do that i need to know a little more about you

So what are your opinion of people who have chosen to make the leap of faith in believing that there is a God of greater good, yet shun organized religion for all its faults and pretenses?

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Originally posted by tathi child is metaphorical for someone who has the credulity of an infant, like it or not you were indoctrinated as a child. I find it hard to believe that someone who knew the truth as a child could be proselytized when they are older

im assuming you mean 'truth' as in 'there is no god'. well if that’s the case then yeah, i thought going to church was bs i would literally yell at my mom to stop making me go, i thought the bible was bs ...even though i had never read any of it. and i thought god was bs because 'if he had all this power and love why wasn’t i rich, or why were there starving sick or homeless people?'

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USC means nothing to me,

the University of Southern California is imho the second most prestigious school on the west coast.

or is it because im religious, USC means nothing to you:

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i have trouble respecting the intellectual capacity of anyone religious, don't take it personally

I which case, no offence taken

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weak of mind meaning christian ;-)

it takes a lot stronger mind to have faith instead of fear, and it takes an even stronger mind to act in faith instead of fear.

(faith is not the "i am of the Christian faith" kind, its the "i have faith that this will work" or "i have faith in you", faith in my mind is sort of like the opposite of fear, doubt, and worry. to me it is trusting god, and that is hard to do)

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I havn’t found your reason, to do that i need to know a little more about you

ok

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Is it just me or have people recetnly started bragging in almost every thread about how great universities they're attending or how smart they are?

True dat. Try the real world on for size - often times not much to brag about there! Oh well, guess that's why I'm going back to school for another degree

Gotta have somethin' to brag about damnit!

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Originally posted by tathi child is metaphorical for someone who has the credulity of an infant, like it or not you were indoctrinated as a child. I find it hard to believe that someone who knew the truth as a child could be proselytized when they are older USC means nothing to me, i have trouble respecting the intellectual capacity of anyone religious, don't take it personally weak of mind meaning christian ;-) I havn't found your reason, to do that i need to know a little more about you

You're an idiot. Have fun doing well in life.