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Mrs.Spice
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Damn, I feel dumb now! Whatcha guys talkin about again? Guess the answer to this thread would be NO!!!!!!!!!

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Flyboy217
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I know we've gotten off-topic, but what is that?


Draw a 2-dimensional map (like countries for example). You need to color them in such a way that no two bordering countries have the same color (to avoid confusing the map viewers!). Is there a bound for the number of colors you must use to do this?

The answer is 4 (?!). That's right, using 4 colors, you can color ANY map so that no two bordering countries have the same color. It was only eventually proven by enumerating equivalence classes by a computer. Nobody's solved it by hand. I think it's the most famous example of a (partially) computer-proven problem.

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Flyboy217
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I guess the rest shall remain forever unsolved :-D

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UWM
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This is quite easy to show on paper really ...

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DigiNut
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quote:
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I guess the rest shall remain forever unsolved :-D

Well, only 3(b) and 4(b) are unsolved... I just don't have that much time to work on them lately, I'll get to 'em eventually...


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Flyboy217
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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
This is quite easy to show on paper really ...


The four-color theorem? Well props to you if you can, but mathematicians have tried (and failed) for decades.

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The four-color theorem? Well props to you if you can, but mathematicians have tried (and failed) for decades.

Is this any map you could possibly devise, or just our world map?


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DJ-Fuq
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quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
Draw a 2-dimensional map (like countries for example). You need to color them in such a way that no two bordering countries have the same color (to avoid confusing the map viewers!). Is there a bound for the number of colors you must use to do this?

The answer is 4 (?!). That's right, using 4 colors, you can color ANY map so that no two bordering countries have the same color. It was only eventually proven by enumerating equivalence classes by a computer. Nobody's solved it by hand. I think it's the most famous example of a (partially) computer-proven problem.


What about a country with 4 other countries bordering it?

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UWM
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quote:
Originally posted by Flyboy217
The four-color theorem? Well props to you if you can, but mathematicians have tried (and failed) for decades.


Well I don't know if I've necessarily proven it, but I was just toying around with it and came up with what looked to be a solution.

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Mebot
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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Well I don't know if I've necessarily proven it, but I was just toying around with it and came up with what looked to be a solution.


i'm piqued. Post a pic and lets see how you did it

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Flyboy217
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
What about a country with 4 other countries bordering it?


The center country is colored A and the rest are all B. That's two colors :-)

Yes, this is of course for any possible 2D map, not just our world :-P. That would be a horrible, horrible mathematical theorem.

Four Color Theorem

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