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Orbax
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You really dont lose a whole lot either way. Think about saying "im gonna do a 5 day diet, I bet I can lose all my fat".

I did a very light work out 1 time during a several day fast. Usually not reccomended though, cuz you arent really intaking protein to rebuild the torn muscle. Also, your body has priorities. If you are injured, or have some internal thing your body wants to fix, working out would tear your muscle, and just make your body be able to half ass fix both. So I wouldnt work out. Just do a killer workout a couple days before the fast. You are supposed to take a week off working out occasionally anyways

You are at homeostasis right now, your body is used to bein at that weight etc... So after the fast dont be surprised if you get some of the weight back. Just make sure its muscle not fat

I wouldnt do any supplements, again the whole point is to make your body do as little work as possible digesting, and packaging, and shipping, and burning as possible. You want it to be able to focus on itself internally. Fasts should usually be a time of low energy output. Right now im on a sales floor so im walking around ALL DAY, so ive just done a couple of 1 day fasts this week instead of a contiguous one.

Plus, body builders do this all the time for shows. You get the fat back too eventually, your body doesnt like being below about 6%

To minimize muscle loss, be calm the first couple of days, keep movement to as much of a minimum. Dress warmly (you gotta stay warm somehow, the less coal it burns to keep you @ 98.6 the better), drink near-hot water. If you can do that, and you get the glucose strips from the store....just start movin around a bit more when you hit ketosis. Other than that youre solid.

In recap:

1) Dont work out
2) Dont take supplements
3) Youll get most of the weight back
4) Minimize activity, maximize heat conservation
5) Prepare to be cleansed

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Orbax
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quote:
Originally posted by drizzt81
so if i get my body to never stop producing enzymes, i would never die?!


youd live a hell of a lot longer maybe 120 instead of 73

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DjDeComp
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Omg I'm losing so much weight


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Originally posted by MK-S
A 5 day fast is my no means easy. Well, at least I know I'd stuggle

Worth a try though. How much weight would you lose in that period out of interest?


crystal!

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Estella
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Originally posted by Mebot
Im only drinking water this week but im curious as to whether or not i can drink Green Tea?

Green Tea has many beneficial properties including lipo-proteins and antioxidants. Just wondering if it would be a good thing or a bad thing to consume during detox?


I've actually heard the benefits of White Tea to be greater than that of Green Tea. I've never had any experience with White Tea. I just heard this not long ago, didn't even know it existed. Another trip to Wild Oats! Do you have any info on this? I'll keep you posted, none the less.

b.u.m.p


I've read 96oz. of water to be the magical number of water consumption throughout the day. If I was to do an Orbax advised 5 day h2o fast, would this amount of water throw off electrolytes? I've read through this thread and pumped to start! The only thing is, there's an unopened bottle of margarita mix whispering hot breathe into me ear.

Also, my school schedule this semester is pretty rigorous. For example, tomorrow I'm attending for 9 hours. Could this end up being a major downfall? Or advantage? What I'm getting at is, I'm needing all the brain juice. I can't be hallucinating or having epileptic attacks on the biology lab floor. Will a 5 day fast provide clarity or will I mentally degenerate?

Whiskers, keep us posted! Was it a success? Drawbacks? Advantages?



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Aiwendil
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Originally posted by Orbax
When you cook it all it kills the enzymes so your body must produce some to get the job done.


Which job? Enzymes are required for every chemical reaction in the human body.


quote:

You only have so many enzymes. Part of the reason for your dying is you run out. Your body stops making them after a while.


As humans grow older our bodies produce less enzymes. This does not mean that we have a limited amount of enzymes or that we will "use them up" before time.


quote:
You must train your body to not produce so much shit for stuff. (quit eating fake foods like fucking donuts)


Such wisdom.


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I did a very light work out 1 time during a several day fast. Usually not reccomended though, cuz you arent really intaking protein to rebuild the torn muscle.


If your muscle is torn you're going to need a lot more than protein to rebuild it.


There is no evidence that "detox diet" removes "toxins" from the body, or at least not more efficiently than our body removes toxins itself through the liver, kidneys, and other things. Basically the only thing drinking water for five days is going to definitely do is deprive your body of a lot of nutrients. You'll have less energy and less...everything. And you're right, bodybuilders do do this a lot of time for shows. You'll find a lot of them backstage nearly passing out from exhaustion and deprivation.


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Orbax
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I said it kills the enzymes in the food not in your body...the rest is just jibberish. I doubt youve actually read any books with the specific topic being detox ...or anything regarding "debunking" the mythical and never-used behavior of 'fasting', but unless you have something solid to add youre just digging up an old thread to be an asshole.

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Estella
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Dr. Kennedy,

I was reading in ______________________ by _________ that fasting is the curing alternative to colon cleansing, Candida cleasing, liver, etc. etc. That this method which medical officials tell us is harmful is really a myth. He even quoted fasting to cure depression, anxiety, sleep apnea, etc, on and on. That all the thousands of encrusted toxins cause disease and slowly, eventually death. I can't remember the name of the book! It's bugging me. I'll post it tomorrow. He also mentioned that multivitamins are just a money making gimmick by the health industry. That our body doesn't even the digest the nutrients of the pill. I can elaborate as soon as I find the book. oh! sunscreem actually being the cause of harmful radicals and eventual cancer? NOT the sun. He provides example through the inhabitants of Africa and their lack of cancer, despite having the dark pigment. He has this quote, "Do not put on your skin, what you would not eat." Whoa. off topic.

AQUAFINA!

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Estella
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quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
I said it kills the enzymes in the food not in your body...the rest is just jibberish. I doubt youve actually read any books with the specific topic being detox ...or anything regarding "debunking" the mythical and never-used behavior of 'fasting', but unless you have something solid to add youre just digging up an old thread to be an asshole.


I dug up the thread.

*Searches for books*

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Orbax
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I would do a 3 day fast if its rigorous, and yes, it will end up using electrolytes, so afterward youll want to get some gatorade or something to make sure youre rebalancing and dont just bust out of the fast and start working out and running, youll need at least a day to start getting started again

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Originally posted by Estella
I dug up the thread.

*Searches for books*


I can give you some names if you want them

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Estella
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Oh gawd, hahaa Hubbards in on this

I think I'll wait until the weekend, it's much less demanding. I'm worried about the effects of not eating for 3 days and the potential decline of stability at school/work.

I think every Sunday sounds like a good fast day. It makes me feel a bit wholesome and religious lol I'll keep everyone informed.


Umm..



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is dead on the linoleum bathroom floor due to advice from fellow TA's on detox

Edit* Yes, Orbax. Post them up! I have family interested in this as well.

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