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Radagast
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quote:
Originally posted by moogwai


That's why people who've never heard Love Comes Again in a club should be quite here...You can't judge a tune only if you hear it once as mp3...


Why not?


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TranceSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Genk
Re: Armin van Buuren's downfall

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I figured a bash Armin-thread was in order, just to even out the score. Since PvD and Tiesto have had their share for a while, the next one should be Armin, target of TA worship en masse as he is.

Personally I find it sad to see that Armin has ditched his experimentalism and knack for mixing genres, just cos all the muppets in #armind start bawling their eyes out the minute Armin plays something that isn't their usual boring piece of ASOT drivel like Burned With Desire. Thus, we go from edgy and punchy sets like these..

(Yes I'm bored at work )



Progressive is boring?
You dumbass kidd, you still don't get it, do you
Trance is over, it's for mainstream people nowadays, forget about it
Progressive is more alive than ever.


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Sand Leaper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway
Re: Re: Armin van Buuren's downfall

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
Progressive is boring?
You dumbass kidd, you still don't get it, do you
Trance is over, it's for mainstream people nowadays, forget about it
Progressive is more alive than ever.




You're lucky I'm not in a bad mood, otherwise I'd rip you apart for making personal attacks on my taste (of which you obviously have no clue whatsoever) and not having a longer attention span than 5 seconds, which is what you would have needed to scroll further down the page and read this:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Not all prog is boring, just the majority of the prog that Armin plays Plus he played a lot better prog tunes earlier. Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till Ya Drop (Electronic Elements) and Sander van Doorn - Punk'd (Spinnin) are pretty damn good though.


Now please grow the fuck up and come back when you've learned to make a proper arguement.


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Old Post Apr-21-2004 09:01  Norway
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moogwai
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quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Why not?


Cause not all tunez are only ment for home-use

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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1
Re: Re: Armin van Buuren's downfall

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSeeker
Progressive is boring?
You dumbass kidd, you still don't get it, do you
Trance is over, it's for mainstream people nowadays, forget about it
Progressive is more alive than ever.



As a proghead, you should know that most of the "prog" that Armin plays is watered-down crap made for the masses as much, or even more so, than the mainstream trance you're talking about. The quintessential McProg example: Satellite.

Old Post Apr-21-2004 14:56  Puerto Rico
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TOR
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Bruges, Belgium

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
It can be explained by your taste and appreciation values. As simple as that.


yes, but what is 'taste'?

can you explain where your taste comes from?


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speedracer_mec
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

nay!!

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Choobak
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NYC
Re: Re: Re: Armin van Buuren's downfall

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
The quintessential McProg example: Satellite.


indeed... and not only does he play this piece of crap... but he plays the watered-down, hands in the air, euphoric above and beyond mix of it...


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Pio
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quote:
Originally posted by TOR
yes, but what is 'taste'?

can you explain where your taste comes from?


Yes, I can certainly explain where my taste and your taste comes from: cultural values, education, genetics, social background and meaningful experiences of access and exposure etc.

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rsxtypes
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Miami, FL

hmm I just started listening to ASOT and I really like it. So I see myself as a future fan of AVB.

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PSi
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Fort McMurray, AB

i remember ages ago (about 2.5 yrs) listening to his set at the Zoom in Israel. It was immense, he played some stunning stuff back then. Now i belive he is also in decline, his productions are stale and his sets dont have that unf! anymore.

alas 1999.


later,

PSi

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TOR
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Bruges, Belgium

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
Yes, I can certainly explain where my taste and your taste comes from: cultural values, education, genetics, social background and meaningful experiences of access and exposure etc.


that's my point, there's so many things involved that there's no point in arguing if a track is good or bad.

all those aspects are different for each individual on this planet and contribute to the feeling a certain individual experiences when listening to a certain track. i repeat: it's a feeling, not an opinion he has formed about it after weighing up the pros and the contras.

all those aspects contribute subconsciously to somebody's taste. Satellite can mean the world to somebody, while somebody else thinks of it as being cheesy.

that's why it's impossible to debate about whether a track is good or bad, as you can't really explain why exactely you like a certain track.


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