^Heh, I'm Baptist , but I have the same take on it as Billy Graham... scare tactics like the "you're going to hell" line are not Biblical. Besides, is doing that loving the person (loving people is VERY Biblical)? NO.

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Originally posted by DC76 ^Heh, I'm Baptist , but I have the same take on it as Billy Graham... scare tactics like the "you're going to hell" line are not Biblical. Besides, is doing that loving the person (loving people is VERY Biblical)? NO.

i'm talking texas SOUTHERN baptists. no offense meant to nonevangelistic, nice baptists

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i'm talking texas SOUTHERN baptists. no offense meant to nonevangelistic, nice baptists

None taken

It isn't like the "nice" Baptists aren't evangelists, just that they preach about the love and forgiveness of Christ (Biblical, how Billy Graham rolls) as opposed to sitting behind a desk and making ludicrous statements with no Biblical truth behind them (like Mr. Falwell) and spread hatred and malice.

My pastor, while critical of governments for bowing to opinion polls on certain issues, is also very critical of those hardcore types who go around hating on people instead of just actions.

Case in point: I do not hate the girl who accused me of pedophilia when I was in Grade 12 (she was in Gr. 9), but I hate what she did. But I've forgiven her for it.

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Originally posted by DC76 None taken It isn't like the "nice" Baptists aren't evangelists, just that they preach about the love and forgiveness of Christ (Biblical, how Billy Graham rolls) as opposed to sitting behind a desk and making ludicrous statements with no Biblical truth behind them (like Mr. Falwell) and spread hatred and malice. My pastor, while critical of governments for bowing to opinion polls on certain issues, is also very critical of those hardcore types who go around hating on people instead of just actions. Case in point: I do not hate the girl who accused me of pedophilia when I was in Grade 12 (she was in Gr. 9), but I hate what she did. But I've forgiven her for it.

i don't agree with evangelism, but at least you're doing it in a positive way.

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Originally posted by DC76 Case in point: I do not hate the girl who accused me of pedophilia when I was in Grade 12 (she was in Gr. 9), but I hate what she did. But I've forgiven her for it.

Lol you'd be the youngest paedophile ever

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i don't agree with evangelism, but at least you're doing it in a positive way.

I'm not against evangelism, when people want to hear it, but I'm against scare tactics and pressure. Pressuring someone never changes their opinion, and it's useless. More often turns people off than anything. But there's nothing wrong with discussing your beliefs with someone else, that is interested in discussing/debating. It's all in the engine, not the concept.

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

you need a fucking bitchslap to learn how to talk about your mother right.

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Originally posted by NiteMer I'm not against evangelism, when people want to hear it, but I'm against scare tactics and pressure. Pressuring someone never changes their opinion, and it's useless. More often turns people off than anything. But there's nothing wrong with discussing your beliefs with someone else, that is interested in discussing/debating. It's all in the engine, not the concept.

maybe it's the type of evangelism i've been exposed to...b/c i don't consider someone asking about someone's faith and then that person telling them about it evangelism. i don't consider an invited discussion evangelism. evangelism to me is going out of your way to educate others about your faith, whether they want to hear it or not. i've always had a bad stigma attached to it, because in my view, evangelists are close-minded to other people's beliefs, and approach them as if that person is wrong about everything their religion stands for. i dunno. i've probably just been exposed to it in a negative light... but yes, i really enjoy discussion and debate as well.

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink oh yeah and i think religion is fukin STUPID stupidest thing ever created.

then u must think society working as a team is stupid. or control of the massess is stupid too.

thats exactly what religion was made to do. control the massess. and i for one dont think its a bad thing. we need to be controlled.


cept for me. KING KONG AINT GOT SHIT ON ME !

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa maybe it's the type of evangelism i've been exposed to...b/c i don't consider someone asking about someone's faith and then that person telling them about it evangelism. i don't consider an invited discussion evangelism. evangelism to me is going out of your way to educate others about your faith, whether they want to hear it or not. i've always had a bad stigma attached to it, because in my view, evangelists are close-minded to other people's beliefs, and approach them as if that person is wrong about everything their religion stands for. i dunno. i've probably just been exposed to it in a negative light... but yes, i really enjoy discussion and debate as well.

Yeah. I can understand your peeve, since you've dealt with a lot of Southern Baptists. While some don't use those methods, there's a stigma to that branch of Christianity and it's "evangelism". My brother is a missionary, in Nigeria, and, I can assure you, he doesn't pressure/scare people into believing. He's a very warm, giving man that finds opportunities to share his faith, without alienating people.

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Originally posted by NiteMer Yeah. I can understand your peeve, since you've dealt with a lot of Southern Baptists. While some don't use those methods, there's a stigma to that branch of Christianity and it's "evangelism". My brother is a missionary, in Nigeria, and, I can assure you, he doesn't pressure/scare people into believing. He's a very warm, giving man that finds opportunities to share his faith, without alienating people.

yeah, i can respect that. i have a lot of respect for the people who use their faith to make the world a better place. i still maintain my view of religion, but as long as you use your faith to promote positive actions/feelings, i have the upmost respect for you.

[edit] haha i said respect a lot.

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