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Originally posted by Sunsnail There's not one person in the CORe that will read that block of text

oh shit the TA levy broke and a massive block of text came foating by....

I read it.

To be fair, some of this catastrophe could have been avoided with better appropriation of funds. Emergency supplies should be avaliable to be shipped anywhere in the country immediately. The Army corps of Engineers should have proper funding, not cut funding, as it recently was. As many have said, we should be able to take care of home before we go traipsing to other countries. And we should have a federal plan in place in case of such emergencies; we pay them enough money.

That said, New Orleans is a poor city. Many of it's urban population feel forgotten and disavowed by the rest of the country. There is no excuse for shooting at rescue workers and stealing emergency supplies; armed police and military are another matter. People should not be forced from shelter to shelter if they do not want to go.

I agree that we shouldn't waste our time blaming the gov, but that seems to be the only way to get them to react. I think this is the time to begin planning for the next disaster; when our emtoions are still strong, and we still care about what has happened. However, you did make a good point about this being the time to unite and overcome; we helped millions after the infamous tsunami, now its time to help our own, and we should respond in a greater fashion, though less have been affected.

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Originally posted by tribu I read it. To be fair, some of this catastrophe could have been avoided with better appropriation of funds. Emergency supplies should be avaliable to be shipped anywhere in the country immediately. The Army corps of Engineers should have proper funding, not cut funding, as it recently was. As many have said, we should be able to take care of home before we go traipsing to other countries. And we should have a federal plan in place in case of such emergencies; we pay them enough money. That said, New Orleans is a poor city. Many of it's urban population feel forgotten and disavowed by the rest of the country. There is no excuse for shooting at rescue workers and stealing emergency supplies; armed police and military are another matter. People should not be forced from shelter to shelter if they do not want to go. I agree that we shouldn't waste our time blaming the gov, but that seems to be the only way to get them to react. I think this is the time to begin planning for the next disaster; when our emtoions are still strong, and we still care about what has happened. However, you did make a good point about this being the time to unite and overcome; we helped millions after the infamous tsunami, now its time to help our own, and we should respond in a greater fashion, though less have been affected.

cmon people, write little summaries

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Originally posted by Sunsnail cmon people, write little summaries

Sorry.

Short version: The only way to get the goverment to react is to make a big deal out of it. Their poor response and lack of plan doesn't make the looters and pillagers right. We should unite to help these people more than the tsunami victims, as it's our own soil.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail -1 A lot of buildings from the French Quarter have survived which would be devestating if they caught on fire and were burned

It may sound harsh but the reality is the city of New Orleans is a toxic mess. Even if the buildings weren't destroyed the entire city will have to be disinfected in some way. Just the amount of mold on the buildings will probably be enough to cause them to be torn down and rebuilt.

There is no way New Orleans can be saved....it has to be rebuilt...it serves them right though....as humans you would think we should be smart enough to not build cities below sea level. This was bound to happen some day....when we build where we shouldn't you have to expect that you are eventually going to get screwed

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i think we should pull the fuck out of iraq where the terrorists ARENT and reconsider what priorities we value the most.

you want national security?
it'd be a good idea to start inside, where we've got the biggest problems.

btw g. bush said to some vets on the war:
"We owe them something. We will finish the task that they gave their lives for ... by staying on the offensive against the terrorists, and building strong allies in Afghanistan and Iraq that will help us win and fight -- fight and win the war on terror"

wtf...
"we owe them something" is our reason now?

jesus hes retarded

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Originally posted by tribu Sorry. Short version: The only way to get the goverment to react is to make a big deal out of it. Their poor response and lack of plan doesn't make the looters and pillagers right. We should unite to help these people more than the tsunami victims, as it's our own soil.

how do you propose the average Joe help these people besides donating money?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced It may sound harsh but the reality is the city of New Orleans is a toxic mess. Even if the buildings weren't destroyed the entire city will have to be disinfected in some way. Just the amount of mold on the buildings will probably be enough to cause them to be torn down and rebuilt. There is no way New Orleans can be saved....it has to be rebuilt...it serves them right though....as humans you would think we should be smart enough to not build cities below sea level. This was bound to happen some day....when we build where we shouldn't you have to expect that you are eventually going to get screwed

True I guess........ I think we should wait until they can come up with some hard data on how damaged the area is.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail how do you propose the average Joe help these people besides donating money?

Donate cases of water: you can buy them at your grocery for less than 10 bucks and give them to the Red Cross. Food is also a must, ready made stuff: nothing that needs cooked.

Take a week off of work when the rebuilding starts and build temp or perm homes.

Buy Louisiana products such as produce, electronics or groceries. This will generate tax revenue for the state.

Conserve gas and water by walking more, and reusing water when possible.

And as you said, donate money. This was the major average joe's contribution to the tsunami, and money is a resource convertable to other resources. Thus giving 10 bucks isn't going to hurt you much, but a large group all giving 10 bucks will help plenty.

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Originally posted by tribu Sorry. Short version: The only way to get the goverment to react is to make a big deal out of it. Their poor response and lack of plan doesn't make the looters and pillagers right. We should unite to help these people more than the tsunami victims, as it's our own soil.

So the squeeky wheel gets the grease

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced So the squeeky wheel gets the grease

i wouldn't say this is 100% true (few things are), but when it comes to our federal government (and also, in my case, my state and local government), it does often seem to be the case...

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Originally posted by tribu I read it. To be fair, some of this catastrophe could have been avoided with better appropriation of funds. Emergency supplies should be avaliable to be shipped anywhere in the country immediately. The Army corps of Engineers should have proper funding, not cut funding, as it recently was. As many have said, we should be able to take care of home before we go traipsing to other countries. And we should have a federal plan in place in case of such emergencies; we pay them enough money. That said, New Orleans is a poor city. Many of it's urban population feel forgotten and disavowed by the rest of the country. There is no excuse for shooting at rescue workers and stealing emergency supplies; armed police and military are another matter. People should not be forced from shelter to shelter if they do not want to go. I agree that we shouldn't waste our time blaming the gov, but that seems to be the only way to get them to react. I think this is the time to begin planning for the next disaster; when our emtoions are still strong, and we still care about what has happened. However, you did make a good point about this being the time to unite and overcome; we helped millions after the infamous tsunami, now its time to help our own, and we should respond in a greater fashion, though less have been affected.

I agree with most everything you said except for the last part. Its the role of the Federal Government to plan for these things and coordinate a quick and massive response. So far they have done very little. To me that’s not surprising because they seem to care very little for individuals and even less for the poor. Its really an indightment on the social support system or lack of in this country.