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| quote: | Originally posted by The Don
ACTUALLY! ecstacy use in britian is widespread in the youth culture here. Statistics show more than forty percent of people between 17 and 20 use ecstacty regularly and still the problems caused are minimal and usually when there are problems they are caused by people ignorance to the drug. Everyone comes on ranting about the long term effects, again Id like to ask where all these manic deppressives are the first generation of "E" users are now well into their 40/50s. I dont see any of them suffering or any evidence of mental problems.
The lastest ones in britain just goes to show how full of shite the health agencies are here. "Ecstacy makes you go bald" LMFAO, constant bullshit to try and scare young people into not taking it. If they spent as much trying to educate people on the drugs and their effects there would be less deaths and probably less takers if they were just informed and not left with the curiosity of it.. |
I'd be hellishly surprised about the statistic being regular use, though not so much if it was a 40% have tried it. I'd think the statistic was a bit low though in that case. IIRC The stats I've seen for USA were in the realm of 60 - 80 % of people under the age of 21 had tried illicit substances at least once.
Ahh, found the american stats: http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov...guse/index.html paraphrased
Ever used any illicit substance (2001):
12-17 - 28.4%
18-25 - 55.6%
26-34 - 52.3%
35+ - 38.4%
all ages (12+) - 41.7%
The article has lots of info and funky graphs.
The place to find links about this stuff is http://www.drugstory.org/drug_stats/druguse_stats.asp
I''ll reiterate again, don't tell me drugs are bad unless you know what you are talking about from experience / first hand knowledge. I do agree however that drug abuse is bad, don't get me wrong. I'm totally against drug abuse whether it's tobacco, alcohol, e or heroin. In all things moderation is key.
I would also see much larger risks to people in the following areas:
| quote: | http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5104a1.htm
Riding with a Driver Who Had Been Drinking Alcohol
During the 30 days preceding the survey, 30.7% of students nationwide had ridden >1 times with a driver who had been drinking alcohol (Figure 2) (Table 4). Male students in grade 11 (32.8%) were significantly more likely than female students in grade 11 (25.4%) to report this behavior. Overall, Hispanic students (38.3%) were significantly more likely than white and black students (30.3% and 27.6%, respectively) to have ridden with a driver who had been drinking alcohol. This significant racial/ethnic difference was identified for female students. Prevalence of riding with a driver who had been drinking alcohol ranged from 17.1% to 43.5% (median: 31.8%) across state surveys and from 19.3% to 39.6% (median: 29.5%) across local surveys (Table 5).
Driving After Drinking Alcohol
During the 30 days preceding the survey, 13.3% of students nationwide had driven a car or other vehicle >1 times after drinking alcohol (Table 4). Male students (17.2%) were significantly more likely than female students (9.5%) to have driven after drinking alcohol. This significant sex difference was identified for all the racial/ethnic subpopulations and for students in grades 9, 11, and 12. Overall, white students and Hispanic students (14.7% and 13%, respectively) were significantly more likely than black students (7.7%) to have driven after drinking alcohol. White and Hispanic female students (10.9% and 10.5%, respectively) were significantly more likely than black female students (3.3%), and white male students (18.6%) were significantly more likely than black male students (12.5%) to report this behavior. Overall, students in grade 10 (10.4%) were significantly more likely than students in grade 9 (6.6%) to have driven after drinking alcohol; students in grade 11 (16.7%) were significantly more likely than students in grades 9 and 10 (6.6% and 10.4%, respectively) to report this behavior; and students in grade 12 (22.1%) were significantly more likely than students in grades 9, 10, and 11 (6.6%, 10.4%, and 16.7%, respectively) to report this behavior. Prevalence of driving after drinking alcohol varied fourfold from 6.4% to 26.8% (median: 13%) across state surveys and varied fourfold across local surveys from 3.8% to 13.8% (median: 8%) (Table 5).
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it also goes into tobacco use / alcohol / other risk factors for students a bit more quantitatively than rumours people spout.
I also have the view if you use drugs and you don't know what they do to you physiologically, then you are an idiot too. People that take "pills" that their "mate" handed to them and they swallowed without finding out what it was / testing it / at least knowing it's from a "reliable" source, or knows people who have done pills from the same batch; these people really piss me off, as they are likely to do damage to themselves, bring bad reputation to the scene and end up causing me and my friends grief. Yeah this is stereo-typing, but if the mould fits, it's not wrong to make use of it.
Anyway, to re-iterate once more: read your facts (I've linked to enough) then try and make your points. If you don't, I don't have any respect for your argument.
On DJs and drug use, my view is that it's a personal choice, and one to be made in consideration of the fact that they have a job that they are getting paid to do. If they perform better in their job and choose to take drugs then that is their choice to make. If they are worse from it, I'd find it a little bit of a disappointment (but probably go have a cone later with them ... j/k) Remember kiddies, they are private people too, and you all should be pretty careful making allegations and potentially defamatory comments about them as they earn a shitload more than you do (sterotyping again), and can afford decent lawyers (one of the best of the crop is a qualified lawyer). So think before you post yourself a lawsuit.
Hrm, quite a long post, gotta lay off the drugs methinks (j/k)
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