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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
Location: New York , NY

quote:
Originally posted by StanVoid
I went Saturday and didn't have high expectations at all. First of all, I'v seen PVD in Las Vegas this past New Year's and wasn't too impressed. Then the reviews of his set from Friday were shit as well - so then I really didn't expect much. But man ... did the man fucking deliver.

The night was incredible, simply magical. Best NYC party I've been to, bar none. PVD even beat Ferry's night at Crobar in my mind. The atmosphere, the setting (trees, central park, oooh man), the rain blurring all the lights into a beautiful foggy mesh of colors, and MY GOD was the music good. So many great tracks that I can't wait to get a hold of once the playlist comes out. I got a video of one of the tracks that I really loved, will upload later.

Anyway, after this party, PVD has proven to me his worthiness of the #1 spot. He was so into it all too! Dancing, smiling, interacting with the crowd, just fuckin rockin out all the way. What a night. Great fucking night.

Stan.



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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk

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aNYthing
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Near metric fuck-a-ton of high-end gear

First and foremost - it's bad enough we're playing live performer's fees to stand in a rock-concert like formation and dance to pre-recorded music. I totally dig the fact that PvD wants to bring some dynamics to the show by using Ableton and live drummer but I've watched PvD's sets disintegrate right before my eyes. Using nothing but laptop for DJing live is on a border line of insulting.

Perhaps the reason why PvD is so animated on stage lately is because he no longer has to haul heavy-ass record boxes and has more energy left. Perhaps he finally realized that he can be more animated and pump up the crowd to otherwise mediocre tune by jumping around. Perhaps he's just happy that he got a nice fat paycheck from Sirrius. Who knows - bottom line we have a "Brand new PvD".

Maybe I'm alone on this one but was I the only one to think that he wasn't that great on Saturday? His 15 second clips were reminescent of my old 80's and 90's euro dance compilation with like a 40 track list, each is a 15-20 second sample of the song.

It's great for ADD riddled listeners and DJs alike but for fans of tracks or aspiring producers this is bad news. It's cool that he warps the samples or drops the beat here and there or remixes on the fly - it's great! But it takes away from organic feel of the songs. It's no longer a familiar territory which is good and bad. It's a hit or miss scenario. Pvd was good with reading crowd reaction based on tracks. now he tries to do that on a microscopic level - read crowd based on short song samples, mixed with 30 other songs in one continuous salad of sounds. some are good, some are "meh"

Bottom line - I felt that PvD kept losing the crowd on Saturday, he had build ups that were longer than songs themselves, the drummer couldn't keep up with the beat on many occasions and after a while became fucking annoying.

PvD, like many would be quick to point out, used to tell a story or take you on a journey with his set. The analogy I would use for his sets lately - his sets ramble and babble incoherently, like a coked out of his skull Franky Wylde. I'm not even talking about Franky Wylde-like trainwrecks, drop outs, shoddy mixing, and just overall slopiness on the touchpad... (notice - not on decks anymore)

Sorry if I ruffled few feathers here but I thought the show was at best - mediocre. I realized that I grew out of PvD. It was a sad fairwell for me but I don't think I'll pay to see PvD ever again. At least not until he gets his grove back. It'd definitely be nice to see that instead of standing around for 5 minutes, waiting for laptop to reboot he'd slap down a record and go back to business.

oh well.


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aNYthing
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Near metric fuck-a-ton of high-end gear

quote:
Originally posted by pvd420
part of me almost doesnt want that to happen because of this strange curse that being voted #1 has on dj's that i like (aka tiesto and now pvd).

maybe it is just me but i see people in this threads and in other pvd review threads talking about him playing "hard" tracks. i just dont get it. when i think of hard tracks i think of the stuff he used to play like:

dreamland
club attack
desire (4 strings mix)
M (above and byond mix)
sun decade - i'm alone
modulation - spirits
st john vs locust - mind circles

(this is only a few tracks that i looked up from the rips of his livesets that i have collected over the years)

this stuff he spins now just isnt hard. the buildups suck, the melodies are just meeh. he sounds nothing like he used to. you could say "he just changed his style, it evolved and maybe you should to." I'm sorry i just dont feel that way. i know that trance doesnt sound like it did 4 or so years ago, or even further back then but there is still good stuff out there. i mean look at the last 2 1/2 hours of armin's brooklyn set. awesome energy and songs that werent as slow as 100 bpm. i would have killed to hear a song like lift, exactly, or even arisen last night.

i just cant believe that i used to love pvd so much when i first started going to see him live back in 02 and he plays like this now. last night was the final straw, i'm done paying $30 and up to see him when he comes here.

i can understand the first 45 minutes of last night being a more mellow tempo begining because a: it's daylight and b: cause of that drummer playing along to the music. by about 7 or so he had lost me. i kept saying that all i wanted was for pvd to give the drummer a nice 5 minute solo and then get him the fuck off the stage. ok a interesting gimmick having him play live, yes but not the whole night.

pvd may not consider himself a trance dj, but that is what made him famous. he needs to go back to that. i just dont consider what he plays trance anymore. very little of what he played last night had that "trancy feel" to it that you would get when he used to play NY. i have talked to people that have seen him recently in berlin and elsewhere besides here and say he plays completely different. why did he stop playing that way in NY?

overall if i had wanted to hear the tempo of the set that was going to be played last night, i would want to hear that stuff sitting at home, not when i am out trying to dance.

i'm glad that some of you had a good time. i wish i did. seems like i have said that too much the past few pvd gigs that i have gone to.


PMF1!


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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
Location: New York , NY

I can appreciate people's take on the event(s). I'm never one to sway ones opinions. Keep in mind, nothing is changing due to what you read here.

What I am confused about is...do all you "nay sayers" realize that PVD has always mixed in, out, over and under tracks for YEARS! He has even said it in interviews...he plays the track and the segment(s) of the track he feels. This is nothing new. Times have changed, technology has given people ability to create rather than just play. Unfotunately, some people just can't accept that. So be it...

If you read the Clubplanet.com interviews from PVD and Made events...you may understand this event more...and appreciate what went on. This is not a club night...this is an event for all ages...We saw families and children there enjoying their time. If you are a new comer to PVD and summerstage..you can't leave without hearing "For an Angel"...it just comes with the territory.

The procuction was great...the drums were a nice added element that tranformed this into more of an industrial techy-trance set...something I have never seen...Not too many drummers can keep up at 140BPM...kudos to him. The lights, the sound...all added to it (barring one set back...hey shit happens)....It's all about the music, the setting the emotion and the times. If you are not into it...then don't spend your hard earned money to be a spectator....

Can't wait for Roseland!


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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk

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Vandit56
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey, USA

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
First and foremost - it's bad enough we're playing live performer's fees to stand in a rock-concert like formation and dance to pre-recorded music. I totally dig the fact that PvD wants to bring some dynamics to the show by using Ableton and live drummer but I've watched PvD's sets disintegrate right before my eyes. Using nothing but laptop for DJing live is on a border line of insulting.

Perhaps the reason why PvD is so animated on stage lately is because he no longer has to haul heavy-ass record boxes and has more energy left. Perhaps he finally realized that he can be more animated and pump up the crowd to otherwise mediocre tune by jumping around. Perhaps he's just happy that he got a nice fat paycheck from Sirrius. Who knows - bottom line we have a "Brand new PvD".

Maybe I'm alone on this one but was I the only one to think that he wasn't that great on Saturday? His 15 second clips were reminescent of my old 80's and 90's euro dance compilation with like a 40 track list, each is a 15-20 second sample of the song.

It's great for ADD riddled listeners and DJs alike but for fans of tracks or aspiring producers this is bad news. It's cool that he warps the samples or drops the beat here and there or remixes on the fly - it's great! But it takes away from organic feel of the songs. It's no longer a familiar territory which is good and bad. It's a hit or miss scenario. Pvd was good with reading crowd reaction based on tracks. now he tries to do that on a microscopic level - read crowd based on short song samples, mixed with 30 other songs in one continuous salad of sounds. some are good, some are "meh"

Bottom line - I felt that PvD kept losing the crowd on Saturday, he had build ups that were longer than songs themselves, the drummer couldn't keep up with the beat on many occasions and after a while became fucking annoying.

PvD, like many would be quick to point out, used to tell a story or take you on a journey with his set. The analogy I would use for his sets lately - his sets ramble and babble incoherently, like a coked out of his skull Franky Wylde. I'm not even talking about Franky Wylde-like trainwrecks, drop outs, shoddy mixing, and just overall slopiness on the touchpad... (notice - not on decks anymore)

Sorry if I ruffled few feathers here but I thought the show was at best - mediocre. I realized that I grew out of PvD. It was a sad fairwell for me but I don't think I'll pay to see PvD ever again. At least not until he gets his grove back. It'd definitely be nice to see that instead of standing around for 5 minutes, waiting for laptop to reboot he'd slap down a record and go back to business.

oh well.
SO THEN I GUESS YOU'LL NEVER SEE A PVD SHOW AGAIN, CAUSE THE ONLY WAY YOUR GONAN KNOW IF HE GETS HIS GROOVE BACK ACCORDING TO YOU IS IF YOU GO, BUT YOU SAID YOU WONT SO PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


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sandstorm03
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN
does anybody know what song was played b4 Terranova & Austin Leeds - Shake Me on friday???? it was a really hard track from 04' i believe


DJ Rooster And Sammy Peralta-Move Your Body (Austin Leeds Remix)

i think


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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me



Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

By the way, was I one of the few who noticed that the drummer did not keep beat very well all night. You could watch him hitting the drums and could tell it wasn't on. Maybe his sound feed was different than what we were getting, so to him it may have been on, but the motion wasn't on with the sound.

Also, they kept adjusting the volume of his mic, which got really annoying. Sometimes, you'd see him beating the piss out of the kit, but there was no sound of it coming across the speakers and other times, they had it way too high when the track was more mellow. Personally, I hated the addition and I know Christina didn't enjoy it either. She commented that there was a live percussionist @ Nature One in 2004 for Armin's set (I'll let her confirm that's who she said) and he was significantly better.


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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
Location: New York , NY

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
DJ Rooster And Sammy Peralta-Move Your Body (Austin Leeds Remix)

i think


Yes


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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk

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sandstorm03
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Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by euphoria
He only played like 15 seconds of Aalto - 5 what a fucking tease!I dont remeber second turn because I was probably just walking in at the time. He also played Playmo with ATRC lyrics which I heard he also played the night before.


the breakdown in 5 is iffy so he never plays it

deepsky - ghost
da skunk - hot box
Armin van Buuren - Control Freak (Sander van Doorn Remix)
Dave Clarke - Wisdom To The Wise
Main X - 88 To Piano (Fabio Stein Remix)
Ronald van Gelderen - This Way (Rank 1 Remix)
Mr Sam - Polar Dome
Aalto - 5
Rooster & Peralta - Move Your Body (Austin Leeds Remix)
Royksopp - What Else Is There (Trentemoller Remix)
Emjay - M.S.N.
rank 1 - breathing
4 Strings - Hurricane
Giuseppe Ottaviani - Through Your Eyes
Beam - Silent Tears (Shog's 2Faces Dub)
Kuffdam & Plant - Dream Makers (Shog's 2Faces Remix)
Alter Ego - Rocker
Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (Marc van Linden Remix)
Jonesy - Independance (Stadium Mix) [PvD Edit]
4 Strings - Into The Night
Dogzilla - Without You
Michelle Nicol - Time
Marco V - Red Blue Purple
DK8 - Murder Was The Bass
Carlo Resoort - 0 Class
Alter Ego - Rocker
The Egg - Walking Away
Paul van Dyk - Crush
Royksopp - What Else Is There
The Freak Pres. Exo - Above The Clouds
Marcel Woods - Time Is Running Out
Bart Claessen - Playmo w/ ATRC
paul van dyk - nothing but you
paul van dyk - autumn
Paul Van Dyk - Buenaventura
Paul van Dyk - Stormy Skies
Paul van Dyk - Complicated
Paul van Dyk - Time Of Our Lives
Paul van Dyk - For An Angel
Transformer- Pacific Symphony (pvd)
lambda - new york
Mark Pledger & Mike Koglin - Ultraviolet
Dick Van nille - outside
york - the awakening
Smike & Aleix - Guarantee
Freefall - Skydive
Santiago nina - Belive (max graham)
ASYS - no more fucking rock and roll
Nomads - Holy Land Spirit (Dj shah)
Kuffdam & Plant - The Ones we Loved
Placebo - Every Me, Every You
Austin Leeds & Terra Nova - Shake Me
Don Diablo - Down The Drain
Schiller - I Feel You
Miro - Lift it Now (montero mix)
Cohen v delux - just kick
Rank 1 - Live less Ordinary
Luminary - Wasting (Andy Moor Remix) [PvD Rework]
Timo Maas - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)
Junk Project - Blue Series A1
Katana - Fancy Fair 2005
U2 - With or Witout you
Duderstadt - Muhanjala
4 Strings - Take me away (Purple Haze rmx)
Jonas Steur - Second Turn
Michel Nicole - Time
Factoria - Beneath the Silence
Ronski Speed - Ingognition
Phillip B - Just Like You do
The Egg - Walking away
Thomas Bronswear - Close Horizon
Mac & Mac - Listen
Appendix E - Man Of God
CJ Stone - Shine
Marcel woods - time is running out
John Askew & Nick Sentience - Mind Control (TB mix i think)


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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
Location: New York , NY

Didnt play:

Dreammakers
Superfly

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
the breakdown in 5 is iffy so he never plays it


Armin van Buuren - Control Freak (Sander van Doorn Remix)
Dave Clarke - Wisdom To The Wise
Main X - 88 To Piano (Fabio Stein Remix)
Ronald van Gelderen - This Way (Rank 1 Remix)
Mr Sam - Polar Dome
Aalto - 5
Rooster & Peralta - Move Your Body (Austin Leeds Remix)
Royksopp - What Else Is There (Trentemoller Remix)
Emjay - M.S.N.
rank 1 - breathing
4 Strings - Hurricane
Giuseppe Ottaviani - Through Your Eyes
Beam - Silent Tears (Shog's 2Faces Dub)
Kuffdam & Plant - Dream Makers (Shog's 2Faces Remix)
Alter Ego - Rocker
Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (Marc van Linden Remix)
Jonesy - Independance (Stadium Mix) [PvD Edit]
4 Strings - Into The Night
Dogzilla - Without You
Michelle Nicol - Time
Marco V - Red Blue Purple
DK8 - Murder Was The Bass
Carlo Resoort - 0 Class
Alter Ego - Rocker
The Egg - Walking Away
Paul van Dyk - Crush
Royksopp - What Else Is There
The Freak Pres. Exo - Above The Clouds
Marcel Woods - Time Is Running Out
Bart Claessen - Playmo w/ ATRC
paul van dyk - nothing but you
paul van dyk - autumn
Paul Van Dyk - Buenaventura
Paul van Dyk - Stormy Skies
Paul van Dyk - Complicated
Paul van Dyk - Time Of Our Lives
Paul van Dyk - For An Angel
Transformer- Pacific Symphony (pvd)
lambda - new york
Mark Pledger & Mike Koglin - Ultraviolet
Dick Van nille - outside
york - the awakening
Smike & Aleix - Guarantee
Freefall - Skydive
Santiago nina - Belive (max graham)
yellow blackbird - super fly
marc van linden - forbidden love
ASYS - no more fucking rock and roll
Nomads - Holy Land Spirit (Dj shah)
Kuffdam & Plant - The Ones we Loved
Placebo - Every Me, Every You
Austin Leeds & Terra Nova - Shake Me
Don Diablo - Down The Drain
Schiller - I Feel You
Miro - Lift it Now (montero mix)
Cohen v delux - just kick
Rank 1 - Live less Ordinary
Luminary - Wasting (Andy Moor Remix) [PvD Rework]
Timo Maas - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)
Junk Project - Blue Series A1
Katana - Fancy Fair 2005
U2 - With or Witout you
Duderstadt - Muhanjala
4 Strings - Take me away (Purple Haze rmx)
Jonas Steur - Second Turn
Michel Nicole - Time
Factoria - Beneath the Silence
Ronski Speed - Ingognition
Phillip B - Just Like You do
The Egg - Walking away
Thomas Bronswear - Close Horizon
Mac & Mac - Listen
Appendix E - Man Of God
CJ Stone - Shine
Marcel woods - time is running out
John Askew & Nick Sentience - Mind Control (TB mix i think)


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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk

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Stassi
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Queens

I had an awesome time. Everytime im partying in Central Park it rains, its cos i bring that raindance with me everywhere :-D


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StanVoid
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Location: NYC, New York

what was the really summery, laid back track he played in the first hour on Saturday. It had a wonderful guitar melody in the breakdown, and the type of guitar style really reminded me of York. Was that York - The Awakening?


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