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Originally posted by Proximus Hahaha.. boy, if you want to know the root of all this stuff you need to go way back in history..

Do you know the history? If you did, I don't think your opinions would be the same as they are now, and therefore I will conclude you are just trying to look smart.

History: 1993-1998 Negotiations happened with PA, strategy: gradual withdrawl in exchange for peace.
1998-2000: Negotiations happened with PA, strategy: complete withdrawl for complete peace.
2001: Negotiations happened with PA; strategy: (now Sharon) complete withdrawl of less areas then offered in 2000 for complete peace.
2001-2: Negotiations broke down, strategy: give war a chance.

Both these attempts (which was the span of 5 leaders).

You have to remember, the only reason Sharon got in office, was because of his hardliner approach. The Israeli people understood the elimination of Arafat was needed, and a war might prelude or conclude when this happened.

The Israeli people wanted to give war a chance, since peace talks had broken down. Why? Because "then and only then the palestinians really didnt show any interest in negotiation". Don't you think an agreement could have been reached in the 30+ years since occupation?

If Israel would have wanted the land then, or now.. why have they not annexed it?? Why?

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because there is no right nor wrong anymore in this story.. its just like a sandbox game.. "you started it" "no you did" "did not" "did too"

There is still a right and wrong in this story, you just refuse to see it or except it do to the bias of the information from the media you are fed. Who started it? The Arabs (Palestinians) -1948.

And one child in the sandbox has evolved since then to a fullfledged adult, while the other remains in there, wanting to play like a child.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 calm down you

Enjoy your life.

you to you schwein

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Originally posted by cweb George Bush showed his dumbness one more time when he called Sharon "a man for peace".

I agree, even me a pro-Sharon supported would have found a different phrase to use diplomaitcally when speaking of him, at least in regard to the current context of the time (perhaps latter when peace talks resume.. but).

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eat shit!

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Originally posted by Eugene RebeL9, eat shit!

I have already added his name to the long list of Nazi-Rebels, on the big list archive in the Jewish Zionist headquarters... he will soon find his peace, do not worry. The plan for world domination continues.

As for the moderators, do not let this one guy interupt the fruitful debate we are having with others. If you need edit out his messages, and preferably bar him from TA. I will then remove all mines with reference to his inaddition, and the discussion can continue in civil fashion.

Everybody here needs to CALM DOWN aprubtly, dont let this discussion go to your head.

Sharon is not Hitler, but like those lawyers @nurnber46 said: it doesnt matter if you deserve the deat a hundred times while others deserved it a million times!

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It's nice to see how intelligent are some people on this forum. When they run out of arguments, they start calling each other names.

Very mature.

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Originally posted by Eugene RebeL9, eat shit!

go suck your mothers penis you filthy dork

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Durafei: I agree with you

Look, all my israeli friends, the only thing i'm trying to prove is that the palestinians are just as much victims as you.. you both have real idiot governments..

but lets cool this down... ariel sharon is no hitler, ariel sharon was a war hero but he is a criminal, just like slobodan milosevic, thats a fact. yasser arafat is also a criminal but removing him from palestine wouldn't be such a wise choice because if they did someone from one of these fundementalist groups would take over the power.. and that wouldn't make the situation better.. israel knows this and the whole world knows this.

the struggle for peace continues.. and i sincerely hope that you all, my israeli brothers and my palestinian brothers, find that, and i will keep on study on this issue and try to help the best i can.

ps. one my friends, iranian as me, is about to get signed on an israel label, the iranians will surely put fatwa on him (damn motherfucking islam government)

aahh.. someday i shall visit israel and go singin "hava nagila hava" or how that song goes..

take care and try to be cool.. thats the most important thing, swearing will only make you look like a idiot

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Im glad to see everyone in here can still say civil about this whole topic. Proximus, i enjoyed your last post, same wit cweb. listen i know i cant go and convinence people to change their view in one thread, im not that stupid. i enjoy these debate and have participated in many here and outside in real life. i have NEVER come accross someone like RebeL9. i dont know if he's always this stupid or making a special effort today, but i truly belive he deserves to be banned or at least somehow punished for what he has said (and its many things). i mean come on everybody has the gift of stupidity but he's abusing the privilege. i havent even seen one apology. i really wish to continue this debate until it dies of natural non posts. but i can't tolerate comments such as those taken by rebel.

rebel, in the first place God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made your species.

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