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LiquidNitrogen
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quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Real. Add yet another wrestling tragedy to the list.



My friend works at WWE and had mentioned me to watch Vincet MCMohan the other day i.e. the day when he was shown in the blast flame etc. He met him a few days back in an elevator. All the matches ARE script-ed and this dude has to look at RAW (or the other sub-company) and would be coming back some time soon. I'd say he and his family are really good businessmen and minting money from good scripted wrestling.

Chris's untimely death is a tragedy though.

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this never happened in the UFC


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Fledz
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Originally posted by eRRaTiK
you miss my point.


No I agree with Sunsnail. There is no excuse. I'm sorry but no amount of drugs or mental stress can make up for someone killing their own child. Killing your own wife is fucking horrible but killing your own child? Your own flesh and blood? That's just sick and he deserves to rot in hell for all I care.

This bullshit about drugs and steroids is what they straight away feed to the media to distract from the fact that it seems he wasn't after all a good person at all.

When I used to watch wrestling I loved Benoit and he was definitely one of my favourites but this just totally ruins everything he has ever done.

He's a murderer and kills his own family. That deserves no tributes or any well wishings at all.


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A woman tells News 1130 in Vancouver, B.C. that Chris Benoit's son Daniel had a condition called Fragile X syndrome. Wikipedia describes the symptoms:

Aside from intellectual disability (mental retardation), prominent characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicals in men (macroorchidism), and low muscle tone. Behavioral characteristics may include stereotypic movements (e.g., hand-flapping) and atypical social development, particularly shyness and limited eye contact. Some individuals with the fragile X syndrome also meet the diagnostic criteria for autism. While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.

The woman interviewed for the News 1130 story says her family was in contact with the Benoits, but they didn't want to go public with the disease and chose to keep things low profile. She added that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. She said, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy --they don't tell you."

http://www.news1130.com/news/topsto...626_212836_4500

W.K. Analysis: This may explain why Daniel was taking growth hormone injections. It also may shed light onto why Chris didn't want someone else raising his son and made the fateful decision to kill him. As irrrational and twisted as it may sound, he may have felt he was saving his son from the double-blow of losing his parents through a murder-suicide and being subject to being raised by people who didn't understand or care for his condition. While in no way justifying his actions, the belief that his son was in for a difficult life as it was, and now one without his parents, might have been Benoit's self-justification for his heinous act.


I believe that nobody probably agonized over this more than chris. Forget the killing of wife, nobody bothers that OJ did it, how many other people are worshipped and are violent to their spouses. The biggest thing is that of his son. If that is true that he had that condition, chris must've spent every minute thinking about what to do. What would we do in this situation? who knows. I don't care what people say, if you're actually in the situation you may do the same as what he did. From all accounts he smothered him, which was probably the most non-painful way to do it. he wasn't violent to him, it was almost his best attempt at making it dignified.

Rather than taking the ripped bag or abercrombie way of "making laughs out of tragedy" I think we need to think here. The poor lad suffered but what would it be to how his life would've been after his mum was dead & dad knew he wouldn't be around for him. If we have pets who have terminal illnesses, we often do the kindest thing for them, people are more & more in support of euthanasia. In retrospect which would be the best for the kid? everyone will have opinions but chris, his father, had one and acted on it. Rather than trying to hate him for something which cannot have been an easy thing to do, I think we should all allow his family & friends the dignity of being allowed to mourn without having to have loads of bullshit about it everyone on the net. Believe me, as someone who had to have his beloved dog put to sleep out of kindness rather than allowing him to suffer a few months ago, it is not an easy decision and the pure hate benoit must've had for himself prior to him hanging himself would be more than enough punishment for him. In my case, I spent months grieving, I lost friends because I was short with them & said things i shouldn't have, but I made the choice based on the fact that the treatments if they worked in the case had a very very low chance of changing his life for the better.

My final thoughts are respect for what chris benoit did in the ring, and the amount of people who he knew & who idolised him & who respected him will feel this, however for what he did I feel nothing but sadness. I don't hate him for it, I can't, no matter how much I want to. peace guys/gals.

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did he kill them with the cross face crippler?

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^^^^
First of all, I will never lose respect for him as a wrestler. He was an icon. Period.
Second, even if you take his child's condition into account, and the fact that he MIGHT have done it to save his child an even worse life after Chris and his wife's death, you have got to ask yourself why did he think of killing himself and his wife in the first place. Everybody has problems, killing is hardly the solution for any of them.
His kid's situation comes second. His own situation is what we should be looking at. What could make someone snap this way?


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Yes, he did the right thing by killing his child. Imagine a terrible life without parents.

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Re: ....

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^^^^
First of all, I will never lose respect for him as a wrestler. He was an icon. Period.
Second, even if you take his child's condition into account, and the fact that he MIGHT have done it to save his child an even worse life after Chris and his wife's death, you have got to ask yourself why did he think of killing himself and his wife in the first place. Everybody has problems, killing is hardly the solution for any of them.
His kid's situation comes second. His own situation is what we should be looking at. What could make someone snap this way?


okay so he used the sharpshooter then?

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eRRaTiK
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Originally posted by Fledz
No I agree with Sunsnail. There is no excuse. I'm sorry but no amount of drugs or mental stress can make up for someone killing their own child. Killing your own wife is fucking horrible but killing your own child? Your own flesh and blood? That's just sick and he deserves to rot in hell for all I care.


you miss my point too.

I do not condone the events that have unfolded nor am I defending the guilty party, I'm simply trying to understand the bigger picture.


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