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Originally posted by Clovis Which comes back to my point about success. Where he is at and who he is is a far cry from what I would consider success.

Totally see it now. By your initial definition, it seemed success could totally apply. But now understanding your definition/philosophy more I can see how what he has to you is not at all success. And I could agree.

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Originally posted by couch-potato Yeah there's those select few Tiesto tracks that just never seem to die no matter how many years pass. I've yet to hear a live set from Tiesto where he plays Coming Home or Forever Today. Those are some mean trance tracks, as with the rest of the stuff from the album Parade of the Athletes, but NOOOOOOOOO he's just GOT to play Traffic or Lethal Industry (both ironically featured on Parade of the Athletes) for the billionth time. Hell, I'd even take his more mellowed-out stuff like Obsession or Flight 643 (Two more tracks I've never heard him play in a set). Honestly, I'd shit my pants if I heard one of these GOOD Tiesto tracks at a live show. SPEAKING OF WHICH, does anyone know of a live Tiesto set where he plays any of the aforementioned songs that I'd like to hear? It'd be MUCH appreciated!

Saw him in Sydney this May. Towards the end he dropped Traffic > Suburban Train > Silence > Flight 643, in that order. Suffice to say, it went off

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Originally posted by Clovis In a nutshell: Never losing passion for music and my profession while making a reasonable living from it and being able to travel.

In a nutshell:

You don't have what it takes to be a star. You have what it takes to be the guy that loves his music, yet never truly gets anywhere with it. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes obsessive morals are a bad thing.

I don't believe Tiesto sells out. He seems to love what he does. Sure, he has to drop those tracks that are expected but generally he plays what he wants to, and yet people still lap it up. That goes back to the original point of him being so consistent and most of the time being great at selecting which tracks to play and when. Can you honestly name one DJ who has been as consistent over the years as him? Armin, Sasha, Ferry, Oakie, PVD etc have all had their ruts and some are still in them.

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Originally posted by Fledz In a nutshell: You don't have what it takes to be a star. You have what it takes to be the guy that loves his music, yet never truly gets anywhere with it. Nothing wrong with that, but sometimes obsessive morals are a bad thing.

You're wrong.

Plenty of people get plenty far while always loving the music. Do I really need to make a list?

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

What makes you think Tiesto doesn't love what he does?

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Originally posted by Fledz Can you honestly name one DJ who has been as consistent over the years as him? Armin, Sasha, Ferry, Oakie, PVD etc have all had their ruts and some are still in them.

Consistent my ass. You could probably ask most of the trance heads who have been around for a while and I'm sure they'll tell you he's lost it.

I would say most of his fan base are new comers being sucked in solely by his famous name or older fans that don't choose to explore and see that there's much better out there.

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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Originally posted by Fledz What makes you think Tiesto doesn't love what he does?

I'm sure Tiesto loves what he does with all the fame and money he's getting.

The question is if he still has a passion for it. His works from the recent years compared to before can answer that for you.

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs Consistent my ass. You could probably ask most of the trance heads who have been around for a while and I'm sure they'll tell you he's lost it. I would say most of his fan base are new comers being sucked in solely by his famous name or older fans that don't choose to explore and see that there's much better out there.

+1

not lost it, but definitely nowhere near close to as good as he was before.

You wouldn't see him rolling out 28 performances per month if he didnt have some passion for it, but i think its not a HUNGER, but more just an acknowledgement that it can be done that way.

Last year, he had huge trucks driving around Europe, setting up a stage and breaking it down again for weekly big room shows. Now he is focusing on club gigs (thank god); and probably has realised hey, i just have to turn up with my cd bag and play...

there is so less stress or pressure to accomplish day-to-day shows, than there was last year, which is why the management team and Tijs agreed to such a complex schedule this summer.

That proves the guy still has some passion. I would argue that its become somewhat misguided though, thanks to his pedestal position.

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Originally posted by Fledz What makes you think Tiesto doesn't love what he does?

Thats impossible for anyone to answer with fact.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! That proves the guy still has some passion. I would argue that its become somewhat misguided though, thanks to his pedestal position.

Absolutely. Your audience has an impact on what you think works when you play that much.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Absolutely. Your audience has an impact on what you think works when you play that much.

Heaven help the poor guy in that case. Have you seen some of the monkeys attending his shows?

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! Heaven help the poor guy in that case. Have you seen some of the monkeys attending his shows?

Yeah. I went inside the LA TiC for a bit.

Amazing.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Fledz I don't believe Tiesto sells out.