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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
I think that some people are barely able to cope with the harsh reality of our world as it is and that in order to be able to maintain their sanity they have to erect barriers around themselves which prevent them from seeing anything that might harm them.

In other words, they will fight to the death in order to maintain their ignorance because if it wasn't for that ignorance they would barely be able to live.

It's also much easier to deny something than it is to confront it because once you confront certain problems then you have to consciously decide whether or not you might actually have to help fix them, which is where I am right now in despite of all the resistance that I get when publically delving into these subjects.


You are correct; our consciousness constantly errects barriers to the universe in order to fortify our survival.

Recognizing this at all in the first place is a good beginning of a cure.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
I can agree with you, for the most part, that we on Tranceaddict tend to bite into the conspiracy theory apple; and after doing a brief search on chemtrails, i cannot find one legitimate source that neither proves or disproves its affect on humans. So while chemtrails may not be a spraying program intended to keep us from attaining higher spiritual awareness/consciousness, to reduce ethnically targeted populations worldwide, and to induce bioengineered disease organisms in order to reap staggering profits for the pharmaceutical cartels, I still think we should research any detriment that it does cause -- and not shun it off, as you so do.


you seem to be under the impression that chemtrails actually exist? i would contend that 99% of "chemtrails" are nothing but the natural byproduct of jet engines at work. the other 1% might need some examination, but it certainly isnt the 'grand mind-control chemtrail' scheme that people like trancer would have you believe.

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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you seem to be under the impression that chemtrails actually exist? i would contend that 99% of "chemtrails" are nothing but the natural byproduct of jet engines at work. the other 1% might need some examination, but it certainly isnt the 'grand mind-control chemtrail' scheme that people like trancer would have you believe.


Chemtrails are Fnord.

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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Nothing wrong with questioning. But conspiracy theories don't question. A theory, by its very nature, attempts to explain something. A conspiracy theory tries to provide an alternative theory of reality contrary to whatever is the predominant view of reality. Unfortunately, conspiracy theorists don't place a great amount of emphasis on observable/forensic evidence. So they demand we believe or we're trolls, sheep, ignorant, agents of the conspiracy (look at sig)...


Yeah.

Honestly, if I were evil and wanting to control the monkeys, which I'm not and don't, I would probably use the water supply as the means.

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Chemtrails are Fnord.


I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Yeah.

Honestly, if I were evil and wanting to control the monkeys, which I'm not and don't, I would probably use the water supply as the means.


They use entertainment (movies/television/video games), the educational system, the water supply, the food supply, the air that we breath...

As Bill Hicks used to say,
quote:
Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired, go back to bed America, your government is in control again. Here, watch this...




quote:
There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.

- Aldous Huxley, at a lecture given to the Tavistock Group, California Medical School, June 27, 1961


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The power elite goes to any lengths to keep the public misled, distracted, fearful, and ultimately imprisoned in a matrix of disinformation, rampant consumerism and the lowest common denominators of human nature, including raw violence and mindless sexuality. As Huxley observed in 1962, the controlling oligarchy has long been at work developing scientific methods of control to "induce people to love their servitude" – to make them "enjoy a state of affairs which by any decent standard they ought not to enjoy."4 This dystopic scenario was echoed by Bertrand Russell, who predicted that as a result of the gradual and ruthless use of technological advances, "a revolt of the plebs would be as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton."

- Dr. Judith H. Young


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
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quote:
Original Bill
Space Preservation Act of 2001
(Introduced in the House)
HR 2977 IH
107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977


To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?c107:chemtrails

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
I can agree with you, for the most part, that we on Tranceaddict tend to bite into the conspiracy theory apple; and after doing a brief search on chemtrails, i cannot find one legitimate source that neither proves or disproves its affect on humans. So while chemtrails may not be a spraying program intended to keep us from attaining higher spiritual awareness/consciousness, to reduce ethnically targeted populations worldwide, and to induce bioengineered disease organisms in order to reap staggering profits for the pharmaceutical cartels, I still think we should research any detriment that it does cause -- and not shun it off, as you so do.


For all we know they could just be using calmatives in the effort to further increase our already high levels of apathy and/or listlessness.

The high concentrations of Benzene that have reportedly shown up in sample tests could be indicant of 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate (or something analogous to it.)

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{b.s.e.}
savant garde



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Source

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
For all we know they could just be using calmatives in the effort to further increase our already high levels of apathy and/or listlessness.

The high concentrations of Benzene that have reportedly shown up in sample tests could be indicant of 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate (or something analogous to it.)


The Nazis* recommend Sodium Fluoride too


*Tongue-in-cheek!


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
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The Nazis* recommend Sodium Fluoride too


*Tongue-in-cheek!


and I'm sure the BGH in our milk, the heavy metals in our seafood, the pesticides on our veggies and lawns, and the radiation from our microwaves and cell phones, etc., is really good for us, too.

You've heard of Codex Alimentarius, haven't you?



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XaNaX
I <3 global warming



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: 1000 Miles too far North

don't you ever get tired of coming up with more dumbshit conspiracy theories?

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