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Originally posted by donnybrasco Um, I guess Iran is embarrassed too, seeing as how I've never heard them say they're missing a Jet Fighter. Ho do you suppose that little jet fighter would get half way around the globe anyway? Keeping an open mind is one thing....using your mind is another.

Dude at no point am I saying that happened. It coulda been oscar the grouch! But I spose you wanna tell me he can't leave his can!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, but id like to know what you think was gained by attacking the pentagon. the attacks on the WTCs werent enough? (and id like to point out that thank fvck we have video of the planes hitting the towers coz id hate to see what ridiculous shit people would come up with). the WTC attacks were quite enough to justify a war. why fire a missile at the pentagon as well? theres really no need. also, do you think they could just invent an aircraft and say it crashed into the building? you dont think the airlines & investigators might notice there wasnt a missing plane that was said to be used? dont be an idiot. and where did the people that were on that plane really go if it didnt crash into the building? if there was indeed a missile fired by the US military at the pentagon, why lie and say it was a plane when its just as easy (and less problematic) to say there was an operative on the ground that fired the missile at the building? again, i wish you guys would stop posing questions and start providing answers.

Oh please... The planes didn't make the towers fall so 'perfectly' in NINE POINT TWO seconds! It looks like a controlled demilition covered up by them planes that crashed into the towers prior...

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Originally posted by ali92 Oh please... The planes didn't make the towers fall so 'perfectly' in NINE POINT TWO seconds! It looks like a controlled demilition covered up by them planes that crashed into the towers prior...

They didn't fall perfectly.

They destroyed a some of buildings next to them, and damaged a few others.

Get informed, please.

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Originally posted by ali92 Oh please... The planes didn't make the towers fall so 'perfectly' in NINE POINT TWO seconds! It looks like a controlled demilition covered up by them planes that crashed into the towers prior...

again, someone who isnt answering my questions. and as already noted, they didnt fall perfectly. an implosion means a building falls in on itself; the towers spewed debris outwards.

it also seems remarkable that the planes hit the towers just above where the govt had placed the explosives!! or did they plant the explosives after the planes hit?

again, unless youre a structural engineer i doubt you know the first thing about demolition or the ins and outs of a building falling down due to fire and damage.

also, id like to know why the need for the towers to be brought down anyway? an attack of this nature would be enough to ferment public opinion imo.

i will watch the video when i get cable back at home, but so far the other conspiracy vids ive seen are grasping at straws.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN again, someone who isnt answering my questions. and as already noted, they didnt fall perfectly. an implosion means a building falls in on itself; the towers spewed debris outwards.

Debris spewed outwards due to the way the buildings were built, and by the way they were hit.

As you should already know, structural support was on the outside wall, and in the core. Beside supporting the weight of the floor, the floor trusses held the wall and the core together, making sure they do not fall away from each other. The planes hit with such force, that it took the foam fire-resistant material off. The fires then heated the floor trusses could no longer support the load from the outer wall and the core. The trusses failed, and, especially where the impact occurred, the outer wall collapsed outward.

I would compare it to a coke can. Crush a coke can, and notice the it does not crush very well. The parts of the can jut out, and some parts collapse in. Of course their was no force pushing down the towers, besides it's own weight, but you can get an idea of what happened.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN it also seems remarkable that the planes hit the towers just above where the govt had placed the explosives!! or did they plant the explosives after the planes hit?

Your acting as if it's a solid fact that there were explosives. There is no evidence concluding that there were any explosives, besides what was in the 2nd plane.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN again, unless youre a structural engineer i doubt you know the first thing about demolition or the ins and outs of a building falling down due to fire and damage.

Don't assume.

This link was posted earlier today in the NY subforums, [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

It talks about the demolition and the use of bombs, like you guys are talking about. I'm sure most of you have seen this, but I'm posting this for the ones that haven't. Some things are interesting, but no real proof is shown to a lot of their points.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Your acting as if it's a solid fact that there were explosives. There is no evidence concluding that there were any explosives, besides what was in the 2nd plane.

um, youre misunderstanding what i said mate. im not accepting there were bombs at all read what i said again.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Don't assume.

why not? so many people on this board try and give lectures about something they dont really know much about; beyond perhaps what some conspiracy net site says about structural integrity. you get stuff like:

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Originally posted by ali92 It looks like a controlled demilition covered up by them planes that crashed into the towers prior...

and since we've never had a situation before where a massive aircraft has smashed into a skyscraper, i think people offering \"expert\" opinion that it was *obviously* a demolition a bit of a stretch if theyre not somewhat familiar with the subject matter.

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So she wasn't surprised by recent news reports that 23 former Ground Zero responders have died from diseases related to their exposure to toxic chemicals there, and that thousands more are sick and suffering. While some responders are suing the government, Giebfried and others want the federal government to pay for medical treatment for the sick responders, many of whom can no longer work and have no health insurance.

9/11 responders are now in need of help

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Originally posted by Marc Summers They didn't fall perfectly. They destroyed a some of buildings next to them, and damaged a few others. Get informed, please.

Maybe you should watch that 911 Eye Witness link i put up in the previous page so you can think about this statement.

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Originally posted by Psygnosis Maybe you should watch that 911 Eye Witness link i put up in the previous page so you can think about this statement.

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Motassadeq was first found guilty in February 2003 and jailed for the maximum 15 years on more than 3,000 counts of accessory to murder and membership in a terrorist organization in the world's first conviction in connection with September 11.
But a retrial was ordered when a federal court in 2004 quashed the verdict on the grounds that US authorities had refused to allow the court to question top suspects from Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network in American custody.
During the new trial, the court found there was no evidence to show that Motassadeq had been directly involved in the attacks in New York and Washington
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