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DJ Eco
in yo mouf

Registered: May 2004
Location: Dirty Jersey
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| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
its not the government's responsibility to cover your education, if you want it be willing to go in debt for it. i did. |
I don't care what anyone says but $30,000 a year for the average college tution is just a slap in the face to those of us who do want to be educated. $5-10,000 a year seems fair to cover most colleges' costs and wouldn't be a whole lot of cost to this government considering all the other shit it pours our money into.
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
also, fuck having everyone educated. if that were true who would pump our gas? or do any other things i hope to pay someone else to do for me. |
No one said everyone leaves college having gotten an education. Making education more available to everyone in the country doesn't mean everyone's gonna go in the first place. And it sure as hell doesn't mean everyone's going to take it seriously. People who pay $40-50,000 a year don't even fully take college seriously.
What this means is that people will drop out. People will realize it's not for them, just like the people now who find their calling doing manual labor, or whatever it may be that you're considering "paying someone to do for you". People will get weeded out of the system if they're not taking it seriously, and yes, we will still have the blue collar workers and the gas pumpers.
You're not even taking into account that so many of these "blue-collar" jobs that you "pay someone else to do" for you are relatively high-paying. Kids will still say "no" to 4-7 years of school, if they can get into plumbing or electrician work and pretty good money at the age of 18.
And the gas-station worker was a bad example because I've never met or seen one who was American. I doubt people with green cards would be included in whatever educational/public-college program would be implemented, so your gas guys, landscape guys, manicure/pedicure ladies, grocery store people, 7/11 and Duane Reade people, and hair salon ladies will STILL be there.
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Dec-11-2008 18:19
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Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23

Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
lololol at the young kid saying he's practically guaranteed A) $1000/hr B) getting hired in a huge financial office C) Finding clients to leave said office and work with him. |
I quote, "I know I've made it when I'm making $1000/hr." Don't know how you could have understood that to be anything else.. I already work in a huge financial office and it's really not that hard to get clients. I set up seminars just for that purpose.
| quote: | | You're going to change your mind about what you want to do 33498743294 more times, so quit your bitching! |
No, no. I know what I want which is why I major in finance. Period.
| quote: | | And those of us that take school seriously (aka, get good grades) have scholarships. THAT'S how we pay for it. |
Congratulations, you want to help me find $12,000 in scholarships?
| quote: | and those of us that almost but couldn't quite qualify for scholarships, have loans out or have family help. Big surprise, it's the way of life.
most people take out loans for school; it's not as big of a deal as you think. |
Seeing as I'm already over $10k in the hole from student loans, I agree. But wouldn't you want your government to subsidize college tuition without repayment? Europe does great with. It helps the economy, and it helps you.
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Dec-11-2008 19:36
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