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Originally posted by The17sss yeah Jinal looked bad, but I liked most of the substance of it... Obama's speech was full of crap, but he looked good. He just delivers it so well that it seems great. Factchecking Obama's speech---> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225...act_check_obama

RIGHT! America invented the automobile. That shit even took me a day to find out. I felt as stupid as he "IS".

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Originally posted by idoru http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02...=rss_topstories

edit: Also, Father Krugman tells it like it is.

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who the fuck is boby jindal, why has he sent me 2 emails bashing obama and asking for money, and why doesn't he just fuck off with his anti-democrat "omg they're destroying america" crap?

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Originally posted by The17sss Again, you're going back to that. I listen to Rush, but he doesn't define me. He probably takes up 1% of my time.

Yet you quote him to back up your fucking ideas.

That there is a fucking problem, because Rush Limbaugh is one of the most backwards retarded pieces of shit in this whole country.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis Yet you quote him to back up your fucking ideas. That there is a fucking problem, because Rush Limbaugh is one of the most backwards retarded pieces of shit in this whole country.

hey, the guy has faults like anyone else but he makes some good points. you have a different opinion, and that's fine. I'm sure there are people you think make sense that I view as backward pieces of shit that calls into question your sanity as well. par for the course

Obama's speech was actually pretty inspiring. I'm going to use his tactics on my bedroom and clean it.

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Originally posted by The17sss hey, the guy has faults like anyone else but he makes some good points. you have a different opinion, and that's fine. I'm sure there are people you think make sense that I view as backward pieces of shit that calls into question your sanity as well. par for the course

The thing is, it isn't just a difference of opinion. I disagree with plenty of people that I don't mind, such as yourself.

The ideology, viewpoint, and perspective that Rush espouses is incongruent with reality, largely made up, and morally flawed. It is harmful. It breeds hate and disagreement where there shouldn't be any.

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And let me ask you this. How many Democrat Party constituencies already live barely above the poverty line; have lived there all their lives; and are still, after 20 or 30 years, waiting for the Democrats to make things better; and their lives are not better; and they still vote Democrat? Some of them are never going to get the whole notion is not sustainable. So what's going to ultimately make them happy is when you and your family live a life that is closer to their existence. There's no desire on the part of Obama or anybody in his party to lift those people up and lift up the whole economy, to lift up our culture, to lift up as many families as possible in the game of prosperity. They want to slice people at the top down to size, and so you've called here and explained how it's happening to you, and it really is a sad thing. I don't know how many it is, but a lot of people hearing you, if they're Obama voters, are happy about it. But hang in. There's such a rabid get-even-with-'em-ism out there in our society and culture today on the part of the left that if you're looking for sympathy and understanding so that others might understand what's headed their way if they succeed as you and your husband have, they don't look at it that way. They're just happy that you're miserable or happy that this is happening to you, even though it doesn't mean one more dime to them. The Democrat Party has built up such a resentment for success, a resentment for achievement among people who don't... You just heard Podesta. "We want to reorder. We want to make things fair. We want a new playing field where the middle class rises, where everything's fair." Those people are the ones that are going to sit around and wait for this magic to happen, and they think the way it's going to happen is for money to be taken away from you -- and when they hear you call here and describe how money is being taken away, they're happy and then they think you're selfish because you say you're gonna cut back your charity. That's what we're all up against here. It used to be that people in that circumstance would aspire to be you and would have sympathy for what's happening 'cause they wouldn't want it to happen to them when they got to where you are. But we've had a number of years here where the Democrat Party has taken these poor people out there in the middle class and they've gotten to enough of them, where all they do is have envy and jealousy and resentment. So they hear your story and they (rubbing hands together). These are the people, by the way, that think they have all the compassion, concern, and caring in our culture and they're happy to hear you're unhappy.

Everything in that paragraph you posted is a lie. It is simply not true. There's no nation of people sitting on their fucking butts enjoying a steady diet of government cheese and jumping for joy at the stimulus package and Obama's plans. Thats just fucking horse shit, and frankly, an insult to the thousands of hard working people in this country facing some of the toughest times of their lives and just trying to get by and move ahead, who need every bit of help they can get.

Being on unemployment is not fucking fun. Unemployment doesn't fucking pay rent for most people. It doesn't give folks a comfortable free ride. Not having health care isn't a joy filled affair either.

And so people who live very comfortably are being asked to give a tiny bit more to help the greater good of the entire country, of the people who are struggling on the bottom. When in fucks name did this idea become so vilified and horrible? There isn't some fucking giant middle class content on not making much money and looking to tax rebates for their big break.

That whole paragraph is absolutely sickening and that viewpoint is EVERYTHING that is wrong in this country. It is the reason why more people aren't happy. It is manufactured class struggle, fear mongering at its absolute best.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis The ideology, viewpoint, and perspective that Rush espouses is incongruent with reality, largely made up, and morally flawed. It is harmful. It breeds hate and disagreement where there shouldn't be any.

this.

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Originally posted by Clovis Yet you quote him to back up your fucking ideas. That there is a fucking problem, because Rush Limbaugh is one of the most backwards retarded pieces of shit in this whole country.

Coming from someone who lives in LA and is flying a French flag now theres a combination! Holyshit.

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Originally posted by Clovis Everything in that paragraph you posted is a lie. It is simply not true. There's no nation of people sitting on their fucking butts enjoying a steady diet of government cheese and jumping for joy at the stimulus package and Obama's plans. Thats just fucking horse shit, and frankly, an insult to the thousands of hard working people in this country facing some of the toughest times of their lives and just trying to get by and move ahead, who need every bit of help they can get. Being on unemployment is not fucking fun. Unemployment doesn't fucking pay rent for most people. It doesn't give folks a comfortable free ride. Not having health care isn't a joy filled affair either. And so people who live very comfortably are being asked to give a tiny bit more to help the greater good of the entire country, of the people who are struggling on the bottom. When in fucks name did this idea become so vilified and horrible? There isn't some fucking giant middle class content on not making much money and looking to tax rebates for their big break. That whole paragraph is absolutely sickening and that viewpoint is EVERYTHING that is wrong in this country. It is the reason why more people aren't happy. It is manufactured class struggle, fear mongering at its absolute best.

Well said.

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Originally posted by Clovis The thing is, it isn't just a difference of opinion. I disagree with plenty of people that I don't mind, such as yourself. The ideology, viewpoint, and perspective that Rush espouses is incongruent with reality, largely made up, and morally flawed. It is harmful. It breeds hate and disagreement where there shouldn't be any. Everything in that paragraph you posted is a lie. It is simply not true. There's no nation of people sitting on their fucking butts enjoying a steady diet of government cheese and jumping for joy at the stimulus package and Obama's plans. Thats just fucking horse shit, and frankly, an insult to the thousands of hard working people in this country facing some of the toughest times of their lives and just trying to get by and move ahead, who need every bit of help they can get. Being on unemployment is not fucking fun. Unemployment doesn't fucking pay rent for most people. It doesn't give folks a comfortable free ride. Not having health care isn't a joy filled affair either. And so people who live very comfortably are being asked to give a tiny bit more to help the greater good of the entire country, of the people who are struggling on the bottom. When in fucks name did this idea become so vilified and horrible? There isn't some fucking giant middle class content on not making much money and looking to tax rebates for their big break. That whole paragraph is absolutely sickening and that viewpoint is EVERYTHING that is wrong in this country. It is the reason why more people aren't happy. It is manufactured class struggle, fear mongering at its absolute best.

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