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Originally posted by boris_the_bear No, you haven't. Sorry.

There is NO scientific finding showing that kids with gay parents lead a lesser life than those with straight parents. I am however done arguing with you using logic. You spew out your ass, get flamed by lots of people, and CAN'T even come back with ONE logical rebuttle. Then you claim the opposing arguers aren't using logic. Not only are you homophobic, but now you're Eric Cartman. Congrats.

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Originally posted by Nostalgic I'm not against two fags raising a kid, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be that kid.

And no one sure as hell wants to be you.

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Originally posted by winston STFU MARIO YOU ARE NOT EVEN RELEVANT YOU GUAT SHIT, YOU CAN'T EVEN FORMULATE A SOUND STATEMENT. ALL YOU DO IS POST ONE SENTENCE OF UTTER CRAP AND CARRY AS IF NO ONE CARES, WELL I DO. SAY SOMETHING THAT EXPRESSES YOUR VIEWS IN COMPLETE SENTENCES OR DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL....

lol LOUD NOISES

I fail to see how having 2 same sex parents will make things difficult for a kid growing up. Kids are opened to whatever happens, so if parents teach their children that it is ok for their friend to have 2 dads, it shouldnt be a problem. I guess the only problem the kids might encounter is if they have kids in school with whos parents have the same mentality as some of the poeple on this thread have.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson There is NO scientific finding showing that kids with gay parents lead a lesser life than those with straight parents. I am however done arguing with you.

You're right there is no scientific evidence, but you can only imagine the amount of teasing/bullying a kid is going to get in school all the way up to high school for having gay parents.

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Originally posted by Nostalgic You're right there is no scientific evidence, but you can only imagine the amount of teasing/bullying a kid is going to get in school all the way up to high school for having gay parents.

Only in Ukraine, rural America, and Muslim countries where parents teach their kids to hate gays. I can only imagine a place because thankfully I've never been there. Anyway, change your avatar you faggot.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear Being opposed to gay couples adopting children does not equal being opposed to gays. Wanting children to be raised in normal families also does not equal being opposed to gays. Prove me wrong without all that childish "let's call him..." stuff. If you have no intention in holding a serious debate, just say it. Punjabi asked a good question btw. There you go. Another valid argument from a representative and a point for the gay community. You're doing them a bad favor though..

Your fundamental problem is that you don't consider homosexuality to be normal. They are not pursuing the right to marry or to adopt children to rub it in your face and be special, they want to be considered as normal people. and treated as everyone else is.

Gay people live in the same cities as we do, eat the same food we do, feel emotion and love in the same way everyone else does. Why does who they choose to love make them not normal? i know lots of guys that date / marry hideously ugly women, and i don't consider them abnormal.

There is no proof whatsoever that homosexual couples are incapable of raising children. so what if they grow up having two dads or two moms?

If you are opposed to your children socializing with children raised by same sex couples or schools teaching about homosexuality, then you can teach your children your own prejudiced theories at home.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by punjabi Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

Why? No one ever has an answer for their statements.

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Originally posted by bas Why? No one ever has an answer for their statements.

Ignorance really is brilliant, isn't it?

At this point, I wouldn't even really bother with this thread. Hell, Boris never even really supplied an answer to my post. However, there seems to be a shift recently in states adopting laws that support gay marriage, so I'll just sit back and let these people "suffer" while people are allowed to live their lives. I mean, hell, look at all of the people who supported segregation and fought for less rights for African Americans during the civil rights movement; now, look at how many people seem to have gone, "Oh... guess it's not as bad as we thought it would be."

I guarantee you that that will be the outcome down the road.

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Originally posted by bas Why? No one ever has an answer for their statements.

I believe their reasoning is that other kids would pick on them. Something that would be a non-issue if the parents of those kids would teach them that there is nothing wrong with having 2 dads or 2 mums.

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Originally posted by nchs09 I believe their reasoning is that other kids would pick on them. Something that would be a non-issue if the parents of those kids would teach them that there is nothing wrong with having 2 dads or 2 mums.

I understand the kids getting picked on argument and I think it's complete horseshit. Kids get picked on for being fat, for having red hair, for having freckles, for being too skinny, for not having red hair, for not having freckles, for having a funny name, for having only ONE parent, for having no parents, for being adopted, for being a different ethnicity. Such is fucking life. What do the parents say then? I bet it's not, "well good riddance, he was born that way".

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear Being opposed to gay couples adopting children does not equal being opposed to gays. Wanting children to be raised in normal families also does not equal being opposed to gays. Prove me wrong without all that childish "let's call him..." stuff. If you have no intention in holding a serious debate, just say it. Punjabi asked a good question btw. There you go. Another valid argument from a representative and a point for the gay community. You're doing them a bad favor though..

there are NO normal families, most families that I know are FUCKED; I'm speaking from experience here.

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Originally posted by winston there are NO normal families, most families that I know are FUCKED; I'm speaking from experience here.

I partially agree with you. But I would consider an average heterosexual family more normal than a family consisting of two gay men. I think you will agree with me too.

Yes, homophobic parents will teach kids to hate gays. As well as racist parents will teach their kids to hate black people. That applies not only to Ukraine, but to any other country, including your own USA. And I am strongly opposed to these things happening because I see it on every corner of our society and it really upsets me. Not that I am offended by you picturing Ukraine as a barbaric country. It's just that this is another flawed argument from you. One of many. And it's childish too of course. I'll keep further comments to myself I guess.
I wish I could participate in this debate longer but I have to focus on my university studies now.
Looking forward to see you spend less time on tearing my persona to pieces and more time on a rational (Wikipedia-style) discussion.
Was nice talking to (some of) you!