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verndogs
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Sports Discussion Forum - NYC

quote:
Originally posted by daydreamer
where you there today M8?

what a crackin' game.

i'm a barça fan, but since it was only on, on three screens (and since there was no way we were going to lose) i watched the liverpool game instead. tough luck. i'm spanish, so we tend to support Liverpool since they have more of our players in their team, and i generally prefer them over any other british team.
it will be easier to watch a Chelsea vs Barça game, i won't be as divided. Barcelona is going to own Chelsea.

can't wait for the next game at Nevadasmith's
hopefully i'm off again.


at work


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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
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Hate being a dick about this kinda stuff but by Vilbao do you mean Bilbao which is also Athletic (Bilbao)?
bilbao maybe...


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
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Few people are in the habit of pretending they're part of a sporting culture they know almost nothing about.


find me a single poster here who was attempting to be part of the "sporting culture"?


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verndogs
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Find me a Brit who gives a shit about American sports and your analogy might be more apt. Few people are in the habit of pretending they're part of a sporting culture they know almost nothing about.


http://www.baseballfan.co.uk/

then you got those fans who showed up to Wembley to watch the NFL games

just to name two

obviously the supporters of American sports in England are not in big numbers, but they do exist


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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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the nhl pre season games in england sold out in about an hour

ian tries to like hockey, but picked the team with the best player. I will give him credit for following it in a place it is not easy to.

black people from any country like basketball


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
find me a single poster here who was attempting to be part of the "sporting culture"?


As I've already said: "we" is a self-inclusive pronoun. Including yourself = attempting to be part of. English clubs = part of English football culture.

quote:
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obviously the supporters of American sports in England are not in big numbers, but they do exist


Hence why I said "few people" rather than "nobody". You're talking fractions of percentages of the population who follow American sports. Brazil played Italy at Wembley recently and not much of that crowd were English.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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As I've already said: "we" is a self-inclusive pronoun. Including yourself = attempting to be part of. English clubs = part of English football culture.


no, it isn't. not even close.


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to be fair, how much of england is "real" english anymore


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, it isn't. not even close.


Yes it fucking is. When someone says "We deserved to win" or similar in a footballing context they're not saying "Me and fellow members of the foreign fanbase" they're saying "the team". Case in point:

"I just hope we can hold them off."

He's quite obviously not referring to himself or any supporters because none of the supporters nor him are actually playing Liverpool. It would be semantic gibberish if the "we" is supposed to include the supporters. It's not even as if, by sitting there watching his TV/Internet stream in the US, he's taking part in an indirect way in Chelsea "holding off" Liverpool.

By saying "we" he is including the team, the manager, the coaching staff and all the supporters there actually audibly motivating the players in a bracket with himself. Now, literally speaking, he's having fuck-all effect on the game. He isn't actually part of what's happening at Stamford Bridge. That's why he's attempting to include himself. By becoming part of some spacially transcendental totality with the club he's trying to include himself in the club.

Now at this point you've got one of two options. Either that includes the culture surrounding the club that gives it identity as much as any players on the pitch, in which case he's deluded, or his "support" of the club doesn't extend beyond what he's seeing on screen. In the former case: I win. In the latter case, he's fucking plastic! He's not "as much of a fan" as people who are actually part of the club on a less superficial level.


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wotyzoid
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Blah blah blah, babble babble babble


WOW. 'nuff said.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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WOW. 'nuff said.


what he said.


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Frenchie
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Babble was a nice touch.

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