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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles PRO-TIP: Your music will benefit if you spend less time on forums and more time writing music and developing your sound.

you deserve an oscar, a grammy and a nobel prize combined!

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd exactly, why would someone need the adc feature of a sound card when they dont have any external instruments

God man, your lack of intelligence is just depressing. Apparently it wasn't enough for me to write a quarter of my post in capitals, so that you would notice it. Maybe it will help you if I make the text bigger. If this doesn't help, maybe someone can organise a cute little picture book for you.

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Originally posted by echosystm the main reason people buy soundcards is for the better digital to audio converters. your onboard soundcard would have piss poor DAC, in the range of ~90db SNR, with very high jitter. my echo audiofire has 113db SNR, and very low jitter. every 3db is DOUBLE the percieved loudness. hence, my output is over 700% better, in terms of loudness in SNR. latency has NOTHING to do with DAC. latency is a software buffer. DAC is a digital circuit in hardware. at any latency, my soundcard will STILL be more than 700% better, in terms of SNR loudness. why is this important? YOU NEED ACCURATE OUTPUT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR ALL THE DETAILS IN YOUR SONG. your onboard soundcard does not give you accurate output, because it is a piece of shit. you need accurate output REGARDLESS of whether you are using hardware OR SOFTWARE. another reason why your onboard soundcard sucks is because it has shit quality opamps , which amplify the signal. professional soundcards have high quality opamps and only ever output at line level. likewise, since your soundcard is part of your motherboard, the DAC is not isolated from interference from other things inside your computer. your CPU fan, hard drives and even just crosstalk from circuit tracks that are too close, will cause interference. hence, onboard soundcards also have a VERY high amount of distortion, due to interference. even PCI soundcards distance the circuits far away enough to solve this problem. the best solution, however, is obviously to have an external card.

In summary...
DAC != ADC
Opamps
Interference

Do you want me to keep owning you, or have you had enough for one day?

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Originally posted by echosystm god man, your lack of intelligence is just depressing. In summary... DAC != ADC Opamps Interference Do you want me to keep owning you, or have you had enough for one day?

lol dac and adc are two different processes.

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd lol dac and adc are two different processes.

JESUS

FUCKING

CHRIST.

! is "logical negation". "The statement !A is true if and only if A is false". In more simple words that you might (hopefully) be able to understand...

"=" is "equal".
"!" is "not".
"!=" is "does not equal".

DAC != ADC... "DAC does not equal ADC".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_...matical_symbols

Did you even go to high school?!

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Originally posted by echosystm it should be illegal for your parents to procreate. has anyone seen the movie "idiocracy"?

Yeah, They call it "The West" now.

echosystem != intelligence

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i'm the alchemist without the cyst without a doubt out of the mist
dig out the grout expose the pest to take it out without the rest

they will attest my patients restorations from the best

i'm from the west i'm not an acmeist only the alchemist

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Originally posted by echosystm JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. ! is "logical negation". "The statement !A is true if and only if A is false". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_...matical_symbols Did you even go to high school?!

you said they equal each other and no they don't. also any dac can pick up electromagnetic interference. most people don't go out there and buy a dac when it comes just to interference lol

strong e-rage going on in this thread

i mean how is someone with a great sound card going to benefit with adc when they have nothing external?

This thread perfectly demonstrates what happens when these so called intellectuals, and modernists come in contact with someone who disagrees with them. Their whole system completely crumbles. Its kinda like DJ RANNs unwarranted outburst on the Jew comment, but instead its a bunch of people. Think of it as a big social phenomena. Though many people here to try get through it by doing subtle things such as not using broken language or openly expressing their views. And at the same time others think they are "right", though the problem is in the fact that they think there are 'sides' much less that they are on the 'right' one.

___________________
i'm the alchemist without the cyst without a doubt out of the mist
dig out the grout expose the pest to take it out without the rest

they will attest my patients restorations from the best

i'm from the west i'm not an acmeist only the alchemist

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd you said they equal each other and no they don't. also any dac can pick up electromagnetic interference. most people don't go out there and buy a dac when it comes just to interference lol

You are a lost cause. I tried my best.

I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about the possibly of it ever occurring, but just in case you somehow magically get a chance... please do not EVER inseminate a woman.

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Originally posted by echosystm You are a lost cause. I tried my best. I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about the possibly of it ever occurring, but just in case you somehow magically get a chance... please do not EVER inseminate a woman.

thats right you lost, goodbye