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Originally posted by Fledz Because it's awful, just plain awful.

Naw wai. Bestest trance trak of history.

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Originally posted by sparkidee Im an unsigned producer I like and produce all types of underground dance music.

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Originally posted by yROMAN while I do believe that Cascada and such have absolutely nothing to do with quality and/or Trance, I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.

what? that's exactly what most of those tracks are, the same obnoxious shit as Cascada. But, seeing as you think those are some of THE greatest trance tracks ever produced you are beyond redemption. If your definition of "like-minded people" are those who only like your kind of music you're better off at trance.nu.

I don't understand how a forum with people only agreeing everything is good and dandy is of any interest what so ever.

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This thread seems to be lacking in PLUR.

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Originally posted by yROMAN 1. This is precisely what me and most of the others on this forum seem to disagree on: while I do believe that Cascada and such have absolutely nothing to do with quality and/or Trance, I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.

most of the others? can you back that up?
I find it extreamly amusing that you are so eager to point out that Cascada and DJ Sammy are neither trance or quality but you are equally as eager to point out that exactly the same commercial music which Tiesto, PVD and Armin are producing is high quality trance music.
I think you fall on your own arguments.

Also I didn't say that all producers who goes for a commercial approach automatically drops in quality. There are examples of producers that can maintain a quality even when they become commercial. However neither Armin, Tiesto or PVD are any of those.
I've first heard Cosmic Gate in 1999 when they started producing hard trance. They were never among the best hard trance producers even back then. But listening to their tracks now is sad. It's really bad pop music that got nothing to do with trance.
As I said I wouldn't mind at all if they went commercial and produced good pop music but this is utter crap.

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Originally posted by supersaw abuse but armin van buuren is "commercial poppy trance"

Maybe in your eyes but I think his style is still related to underground for one Ive never seen or heard him in the charts (maybe he has but lets face it at least one underground act has had a track shortened and put out into the charts albeit only charting lowly at say... 36 or something?)

Quick question: this is a trance forum right? hmmm why are people intent on slagging it just cos it has a "supersaw" effect in it? lol madness that is! I dont care what trance tunes have in them as long as they sound good and dont sound like they have been made on a bontempi keyboard by a 6 year old kid.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redd
lold and stopped reading there

What can I say Im very versatile and like different types of music, Im not one of them who just sticks to one genre and doesnt try them out, I'll listen to all types and if i like it then i do if I dont oh well. Not many are open minded these days

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Originally posted by sparkidee Maybe in your eyes but I think his style is still related to underground for one Ive never seen or heard him in the charts (maybe he has but lets face it at least one underground act has had a track shortened and put out into the charts albeit only charting lowly at say... 36 or something?)

In case you didn't know, Armin have never been underground. And that is a choice of his own. His style have always, and more now than ever before been commercial. Regardless of how good or bad he is you can't ignore the fact that he is commercial.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 In case you didn't know, Armin have never been underground. And that is a choice of his own. His style have always, and more now than ever before been commercial. Regardless of how good or bad he is you can't ignore the fact that he is commercial.

Maybe.... but to me I dont think he has a commercial sound, the ones i think are commercial are the regular miss fits like cas****er and bassmunter

Yes if it's not on the charts its got to be underground.



Also goes for reply to my post, you missed the point by about sixteen miles. Hint here

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Originally posted by sparkidee Maybe.... but to me I dont think he has a commercial sound, the ones i think are commercial are the regular miss fits like cas****er and bassmunter

so you are saying that "Going Wrong" and "In and out of love" are not commercial? give me a fucking break.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 so you are saying that "Going Wrong" and "In and out of love" are not commercial? give me a fucking break.

Like I said in my other post some sound charty commercial stuff but the rest of Armin's stuff (in my eyes) isnt what I would call commercial to the point where its over played and annoying