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Seppuku
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Atlanta

My best friend is full-on vegan, and as much as I make fun of her for having an eating disorder, even she agrees that its totally natural for humans to eat meat. Its cool if you have your personal reasons, but my teeth rip through flesh perfectly fine, thank you.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

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Originally posted by Lews
But you did make a mistake in your logic right there. We're not omnivores. You believe we're omnivores. Whether we are or not is up for debate. You can't disprove my argument using a premise that's an assumption.


I can see why you think it's a begging-the-question fallacy, but it isn't. I'm reasserting my argument that we're omnivorous. If you want to prove otherwise by comparison, you should be comparing humans to omnivores, not carnivores. Proving we're not carnivores is a strawman fallacy because nobody claimed we were designed to only eat meat.

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You're still ignoring the parts about the environment or the personal health. I fully admit that the animal rights part is completely different person to person. Some people care, some people don't. Some people don't have a problem with war, some people do. Morality like that is completely person to person.


I'm ignoring them because they're irrelevant. Theresa asked me why I feel it's okay to eat meat. I said we eat meat by default. You disagreed with a lot of bad logic. I'm not particularly interested in why you're a veggie, I'm just interested in defending my own position.

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One question, though. Would you eat your dog?


No. Just because something feels bad doesn't make it immoral.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Lews
We're not omnivores. You believe we're omnivores. Whether we are or not is up for debate.


Lol dude, that’s ******** territory!

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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

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I'm not Manny Pacauio living in the fucking ghetto, so no.

BUT, if I absolutely had to to survive, then yes. Tell you the truth, if they bred dogs for food...I don't see a problem with eating them. Are they good?

Apparently they aren't very good at all, no.
Just because a dog is meat doesn't mean we all of a sudden need to eat it. We eat what tastes good these days, we're not cavemen looking for only sustenance.


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ownymcown
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Registered: Nov 2007
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ripped from yahoo answers (not using it as a scholarly source, just makes some good pts)

Humans are definitely meant to be omnivores. Historical evidence shows that early man ate meat. We have the biological system of an omnivore. Hydrochloric acid in our stomachs, NOT found in herbivores, enzymes in your pancreas designed to break down meat, NOT found in herbivores. No cellulase (the enzyme need to fully break down vegetation), cellulase is needed for an herbivorous animal, but we don't produce any. Our intestines are long (generally a sign of herbivorous animals) but our intestines are not nearly as long as a true herbivore. We possess canines, NOT found in herbivores. Do I need to go on?

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Silky Johnson
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So what you're saying is God purposely designed us to be immoral? That makes me kinda wet.

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infinity HiGH
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Registered: Oct 2001
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I eat meat because:

a) great source of nutrients
b) tastes ever so good
c) humans are omnivores
d) humans have been eating meat since the dawn of time
e) i'm not a stupid hippie

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Arbiter
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We haven't fully evolved into carnivores yet, but that's where we are (or at least were) headed. Anyone who wants to be an evolutionary laggard can be my guest, however; I only ask that they take the pea brain that goes along with it.

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Silky Johnson
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We can't even feed on the flesh of the weak because their diet is inferior.

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*cries*

I'm such a stupid hippy! You have all made me see the error of my ways!

Oh wait..


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Be quiet. *spits in your hair*

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