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Originally posted by brucelee6783 This is becoming frustrating. The point is, what you speak of is not the future of DJ'ing. It's the future of Jukeboxing. We can't seem to make this any more clear to you.

I think most people are getting frustrated because they are lamenting the long-term future of something they love or they cannot see far enough ahead to realize the inevitable truth.

All throughout this thread the term "DJ" implies that the person mixing will have some sort of audience. The ultimate future of DJing (given enough time) is that a person will no longer be required at clubs and house parties. Eventually, computer programmers will make software that can do the DJ's job far better than the DJ can and will be able to compose music on the fly to suit the audience's mood. Club owners will have no need for DJs at all. They can replace expensive DJs with less expensive effects and stage performers.

How long will it take for "Jukeboxes" to replace DJs at clubs and parties? Hard to tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 30 years. Producers' jobs likely will be safer for a longer period of time, but not forever.

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YES WE KNOW THAT YOU DO NOT CARE WHAT MEDIUM WE CHOOSE TO MIX WITH, YOU'VE SAID IT 1000 TIMES.

I keep mentioning this because people are constantly defending their use of vinyl as if I was saying it was stupid to use anything other than CDs or mp3s. I don't know if they read the rest of the thread so I want to make my position clear to them.

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Using the words right and wrong inside of quotation marks while also quoting me makes it seem like I used those words when I didn't.

As I have done many times in this thread, I use quotes around words that don't have any absolute meaning but are used as if they do by other people. I was not quoting you directly, but I can see how you thought that I did. My bad. Sorry for the confusion.

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Here's an idea. How about I post an article showing the trends of this board's members feeling the need to disagree with your posts going up and your ability to be taken seriously as a DJ going down?

Many people in this thread are getting super emotional about a subject that is very dear to them - the future of DJing. I love to DJ... I love spending hours finding transitions that go well together, I love sharing music with others, I love being on stage in front of an audience, I love the feeling inside when I see people smiling because I put on a song they like. But I am a realist too.

My belief is that the future of playing music at a club or house party will become more and more automated until one day programmers will develop software that will replace people entirely. A natural consequence is most (not all) people will be far less motivated to buy expensive DJ equipment and learn to mix manually because there will be no audience for them. Instead, they will obtain DJ-in-a-box software that will learn what the buyer likes to hear and tailor the set accordingly from an enormous library of songs. While many in this thread have lamented this long-term (30+ years) vision, no one has made any kind of reasoned argument against it. Yes, some people will still manually DJ after the amazing DJ programs have been developed, but the numbers of human DJs will be orders of magnitude lower than today.

Regarding people's opinion of my DJing ability... if their opinions aren't based on the quality of my sets, then I don't care.


And I must say that this thread has been the most fun I've ever had in DJ Booth. Keep 'em coming fellas.

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If machines are going to replace the need for a human DJ, tell me why mixed cd's have been out forever and why club owners simply don't play those all night long.

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Originally posted by Apeattack All throughout this thread the term "DJ" implies that the person mixing will have some sort of audience. The ultimate future of DJing (given enough time) is that a person will no longer be required at clubs and house parties. Eventually, computer programmers will make software that can do the DJ's job far better than the DJ can and will be able to compose music on the fly to suit the audience's mood. Club owners will have no need for DJs at all. They can replace expensive DJs with less expensive effects and stage performers. How long will it take for "Jukeboxes" to replace DJs at clubs and parties? Hard to tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 30 years. Producers' jobs likely will be safer for a longer period of time, but not forever. I keep mentioning this because people are constantly defending their use of vinyl as if I was saying it was stupid to use anything other than CDs or mp3s. I don't know if they read the rest of the thread so I want to make my position clear to them. As I have done many times in this thread, I use quotes around words that don't have any absolute meaning but are used as if they do by other people. I was not quoting you directly, but I can see how you thought that I did. My bad. Sorry for the confusion. Many people in this thread are getting super emotional about a subject that is very dear to them - the future of DJing. I love to DJ... I love spending hours finding transitions that go well together, I love sharing music with others, I love being on stage in front of an audience, I love the feeling inside when I see people smiling because I put on a song they like. But I am a realist too. My belief is that the future of playing music at a club or house party will become more and more automated until one day programmers will develop software that will replace people entirely. A natural consequence is most (not all) people will be far less motivated to buy expensive DJ equipment and learn to mix manually because there will be no audience for them. Instead, they will obtain DJ-in-a-box software that will learn what the buyer likes to hear and tailor the set accordingly from an enormous library of songs. While many in this thread have lamented this long-term (30+ years) vision, no one has made any kind of reasoned argument against it. Yes, some people will still manually DJ after the amazing DJ programs have been developed, but the numbers of human DJs will be orders of magnitude lower than today. Regarding people's opinion of my DJing ability... if their opinions aren't based on the quality of my sets, then I don't care. And I must say that this thread has been the most fun I've ever had in DJ Booth. Keep 'em coming fellas.

My god you are an idiot.

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Originally posted by Apeattack I think most people are getting frustrated because they are lamenting the long-term future of something they love or they cannot see far enough ahead to realize the inevitable truth. All throughout this thread the term "DJ" implies that the person mixing will have some sort of audience. The ultimate future of DJing (given enough time) is that a person will no longer be required at clubs and house parties. Eventually, computer programmers will make software that can do the DJ's job far better than the DJ can and will be able to compose music on the fly to suit the audience's mood. Club owners will have no need for DJs at all. They can replace expensive DJs with less expensive effects and stage performers. How long will it take for "Jukeboxes" to replace DJs at clubs and parties? Hard to tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 30 years. Producers' jobs likely will be safer for a longer period of time, but not forever. I keep mentioning this because people are constantly defending their use of vinyl as if I was saying it was stupid to use anything other than CDs or mp3s. I don't know if they read the rest of the thread so I want to make my position clear to them. As I have done many times in this thread, I use quotes around words that don't have any absolute meaning but are used as if they do by other people. I was not quoting you directly, but I can see how you thought that I did. My bad. Sorry for the confusion. Many people in this thread are getting super emotional about a subject that is very dear to them - the future of DJing. I love to DJ... I love spending hours finding transitions that go well together, I love sharing music with others, I love being on stage in front of an audience, I love the feeling inside when I see people smiling because I put on a song they like. But I am a realist too. My belief is that the future of playing music at a club or house party will become more and more automated until one day programmers will develop software that will replace people entirely. A natural consequence is most (not all) people will be far less motivated to buy expensive DJ equipment and learn to mix manually because there will be no audience for them. Instead, they will obtain DJ-in-a-box software that will learn what the buyer likes to hear and tailor the set accordingly from an enormous library of songs. While many in this thread have lamented this long-term (30+ years) vision, no one has made any kind of reasoned argument against it. Yes, some people will still manually DJ after the amazing DJ programs have been developed, but the numbers of human DJs will be orders of magnitude lower than today. Regarding people's opinion of my DJing ability... if their opinions aren't based on the quality of my sets, then I don't care. And I must say that this thread has been the most fun I've ever had in DJ Booth. Keep 'em coming fellas.

Hope you have fun on that unemployment line. Time to trade in those 1200's and get a an allibi job. Oh, and tell these so called club owners they might as well close it up too, cause no one is gonna pay a $20 door charge, $10 for watered down drinks, and whatever for parking just to watch a machine DJ. What a Noob.

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Close this absolute pish immediately.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Close this absolute pish immediately.

Can't say i haven't been tempted.

But i'm hoping it'll die it's own death now over the next few days..

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Oh, and tell these so called club owners they might as well close it up too, cause no one is gonna pay a $20 door charge, $10 for watered down drinks, and whatever for parking just to watch a machine DJ.

Too true.

I'm laughing so hard my side hurts. Many people who pay to see DJ's are the same as people that pay to see bands perform live. Can you imagine paying to get into a concert and when you make it down to the front near the stage, you look up at the stage and see no real people, only automated instruments playing? YEAH BABY, MOSH TIME!!!

What a joke.

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Originally posted by Apeattack My belief is that the future of playing music at a club or house party will become more and more automated until one day programmers will develop software that will replace people entirely.

you've lost it there mate

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Originally posted by Apeattack Look up the word 'intrinsic.'

I was quoting your usage of the word intrinsic. I never used it.

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"Next thing you know, software will completely replace the DJ and have its own mixed-in-key features integrated into the DJ'ing application along with artificial intelligence randomly selecting tracks to play out to a crowd via a video camera called 'Crowd Reader v 2.0' and people like yourself would say, "this is the future of DJ'ing, so you better move on whether you like it or not." This WILL be the future of DJing. Maybe it will take 20+ years to get there, but it will happen.

Did you really take that seriously.

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automation is not progress of future, automation = leting the computer with a playlist = crap ever, if the best club of the world starts doing this solely because of this won't be in the top 100 of clubs next year

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