Blueman did a couple of quiet instrumental pieces for his niece last year that were just calm and sounded good, but yeah he is pretty one-dimensional.
Like I said I don't expect him to succeed at all in film music. He should stick with what he knows
Jan-03-2011 15:33
Rodri Santos
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan
although all of you are right i think he could produce House better than many house producers, people who are gifted on something are gifted in it's surrounding area , Lionel Messi is amazing at scoring goals but i'm sure he can adopt an assistant role, defensive and even as a goalkeeper, who knows...
Is however more intelligent to exploit what you are best at and his breakdowns are one of the best of the modern uplifting trance if the target are home listeners. What i don't understand about his productions and annoyes me a lot is the loud kicks , hats and bassline.
His music won't get many live plays (some people ask for this kind of tracks but i think a good dj shouldn't play this on a live set) so i think a softer kick, a simple line of hi hats instead of that crowded sound that distort the high end of the spectrum and a deeper bassline would work better if he someday wants to stick with trance again.
The Orchestal mix of Serenity is no near as good as RTMM (Riding Through...) , is enjoyable but is so simplistic, i believe this has only a few days of work, was just to fill the EP release.
As far as i am aware there will be a Orchestal mix of "Away from the Sun" his new single that he says is one of his best, ok we'll see. I found Florescence extremely disappointing
Jan-03-2011 15:51
Kysora
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Hampshire, IL
Yeah Florescence was pretty bad.
Jan-03-2011 16:15
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The biggest problem with many of these trance producers wanting to do "film music" is that for most of them, their style reportoire consists entirely of "epic action adventure." That's all they do, or all they want to do, or maybe all they can do.
That's because everything in epic trance has to be blindingly, massively obvious to the point of crassness. When it comes to signifying "cinematic", the only thing these geeks can recognise is a mimicry of the most overblown of James Horner-esque action score climaxes inserted into the breakdown of an otherwise protoypical 140bpm E-rush primary-colour bosh monster. This is music for the emotionally pre-pubescent.
hey why don't you tell us what kind of enlightened musical tastes you have so I can make overblown generalizations about them and make you feel bad for liking music some other people might not like
Jan-03-2011 19:13
Mise
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2010
Location: Buenos Aires
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
That's because everything in epic trance has to be blindingly, massively obvious to the point of crassness. When it comes to signifying "cinematic", the only thing these geeks can recognise is a mimicry of the most overblown of James Horner-esque action score climaxes inserted into the breakdown of an otherwise protoypical 140bpm E-rush primary-colour bosh monster. This is music for the emotionally pre-pubescent.
you are a music guru, wow men you should be fkn pro, can I see your work??
Jan-03-2011 19:16
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Kysora
hey why don't you tell us what kind of enlightened musical tastes you have so I can make overblown generalizations about them and make you feel bad for liking music some other people might not like
FSOL, BT, Autechre, Aphex, seems like you listen to a lot of the stuff I like haha
Not sure why you feel it necessary to try and establish some sort of musical superiority over people who listen to music you don't like though. Get off your pedestal, nobody's impressed
There was some few months back in 2009 when I really enjoyed Andy Blueman's music, but looking back I can't find any good reason for why I did so in the first place. I was still pretty new to trance, but everything Andrej made was done better by someone else and I could never tell the difference between Everlasting and Neverland. That was my opinion on Andy Blueman's music, so let's move on to obvious spamming for producers I like.
Seeing the fall or at least absence of Andrej, I really hope that empty space will soon be filled by John Danowski, aka TranceCrafter, aka not me. If you liked Andy Blueman's stuff or found it to be, um, interesting, LISTEN TO THIS, NOW!
Moving on off topic, but still related, just like Kysora and DJ Robby Rox, the reason I love uplifting trance, is because its potential, not its current state. There are so many techniques that Daniel Kandi, Andy Blueman, Sean Tyas, Alex M.O.R.P.H. and Aly & Fila are capable of using in their tracks, but sadly never or rarely uses.
Examples are:
Using several differnt hooks that supplements the previous harmony, only to build up to one superhook that blows everybody's fucking minds.
Before starting the beat, introducing with a few ambient phrases. Airbase uses this for "Escape" for example.
Having the lead sequence short and repeating, while the bass and the pads behind changes key independently. Think Humate - Love Stimulation.
Slowly transiting from one mood to another, maybe even from one style to another, within one track, without the listener noticing, while also not being too repetitive.
Heck, even Armin van Buuren should be able to pull something I described out of his ass three o' clock at the morning. Just listen to Blue Fear and the first track on his Imagine album, it's quite unbelievable that those two tracks come from the same guy whose one half of his psyche wants to be Anders Kleerup, while the other half wants to be Eric Prydz.
Still, I'm waiting to see some sort of Epic Trance equivalent of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
If you liked Andy Blueman's stuff or found it to be, um, interesting, LISTEN TO THIS, NOW!
Man that is inasanely cheesey and reminds me of a Bank advert. THIS is not where trance is going for me at least. It's too obvious and cliche and too aware of itself and uses a lot of advert musak sounds.
Why does noone here talk about coldblue - now there is trance I like and I'm not a trance head.
Originally posted by ken_lee
i like to affect people to get the same opinions as me. if money is his reason then hes even a bigger ass than i first assumed.
'Artists' tend to scoff those who chase down the dough, but in reality people grow and have responsibilities to thier family, thier security and mundane stuff like buying a quaint little house and living happily.
Anyone who says money is not important is either a liar (plenty of millionaire UK artists who cliam not to like money yet they still hord the bulk of what they earn and dont give it away despite thier pronouncments), deluded, or a genuine copper bottomed hippy in which case I do admire nthem for caring for only the simple art of living.
Artists supposed distain for money minds me of UK socialist left wing Politicians such as Tony Benn. All his life he's urged society to be much more re - distributive and socialy just yet, yes you guessed it, he owns a £3m house in Holland Park London, a £2m country estate and only got his nprivelledged Political life thanks to a long line of Politician Benns greasing the wheels - and yet he is supposedly dead against any kind of old Boy network.
One day when your'e 60 you might want to think about the fact £500k in the Bank gives you a pension of about £40,000 pa - that's a lot of capital needs building, not to mention you still need a house to live in.
