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Dude, you are bonkers. If Europeans protesting in full Peace keeping garb get a sniper hit to the forehead, then you can bet your last shekel they won't even blink mowing down the Palestinians holding a protest. Please refer to previous graphs for evidence of how the IDF do no give a shit about killing civilians.
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What bulldozers are you talking about? the only thing that will stop it will be Hamas "fighters" who will execute everyone involved.
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What? This sentence doesn't even make sense? The bulldozers used for collective punishment.
What bulldozers you say? You;re absolutely fucking delusional. You do realize that isreal is the only country that makes and actively uses Armoured assault bulldozers? How about the IDF-D9:
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
AFAIK the Sinai Peninsula belongs to Egypt so where is the problem?
Of course the Egyptians will deny it, why would anyone confirm a deal of this nature at this stage?
Anyway, some sources say Abbas declined it and some say he never heard of it.
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So suddenly this initiative, you used earlier to demonstrate that palestinians have no interest in their own state and therefore declined, has actually been denied at every turn by the alleged country rumored to have offered it (not that they could without having a vote which their new constitution demands), and then, even better you have no idea whether the Palestinian leader even knew about it.
Seriously, don't just type shit to take up server space.
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Here you go again, nice try but i didn't generalize an entire population like you are making it seem.
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I've only ever quoted you. I pull them all up if you want. "little soldiers for allah" is exactly how described what "palestinians want".
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That's not what the people of Gaza want, it's what whoever is in charge over there wants and that includes power figures from nations like Iran and Qatar.
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What? I hope you're high when writing this nonsense. At least it *may* have made sense to you while stabbing blindly at your keyboard. I don't even know what you;re getting at.
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You want better "stats"? don't house armories or launch missiles from schools, civilian buildings,hospitals etc.
You want WAY better stats? don't fire missiles.
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Go ahead then. Offer official stats for the numbers of missles "kept in hospitals, schools" etc.
I hear this bullshit all the time. I watched a BBC correspondent reporting live from a UN staffed hospital in Gaza nearly get killed when it was leveled (yes, entire critical care wing destroyed) by the IDAF. They immediately put out a statement saying it was a "hammas missile base". Unfortunately, the BBC has been there for several weeks on the ground and not seen, recorded a single missile or even a gun entering or leaving the property. Would have been kind of difficult to miss it as they were stationed both inside and the building next door.
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Yes, Israel is bulldozing houses "against Palestinians and in some cases Israeli settlers."
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Oh, so hang on, so now those bulldozers exist? But really shouldn't bring up the Israeli settlements. That's an argument you can't win. AS I linked to earlier - every country deems them illegal apart from Israel.
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Did you bother reading the IDF arguments
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Nope, I don't also read ISIS propaganda leaflets either.
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or do you think Jewish people are evil and therefor they demolish innocent civilian houses for their pleasure?
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Stop conflating the point. Firstly, I have never once said Jewish. I've always said Israeli. Second, no not for pleasure but for political, financial, social and geographic gain. I don't think they do it with glee, but I certainly think they are honey badgers on this topic.
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
"A FUCKLOAD LESS PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS DYING" is achievable, but only if Israel inserts more ground troops.
Why would a country in war jeopardize it's own sons just so it can save more lives at the aggressor's side? especially when said country didn't start the escalation?
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Who says? How about stop targeting buildings that knowingly have an abundance of civilians in them. Hospitals, schools, care centers. SO what, one possible Hamas guy in there. You have to kill 500 children to get the terrorist? Well, done you just made 500 families hate the IDf more than you could ever comprehend.
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Israel is not like America, Israel doesn't leave soldiers behind and Israel cares about the well being of it's soldiers.
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What? Do you hear yourself? I'm not even american and I find your comments repulsive. You should really be more appreciative of the US and it's army. You'd probably be as poor as the average palestinian if it wasn't for the USA.
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You are right, Israel should do nothing about hundreds of missiles being fired into it's territories.
Israel Should just pay billions on iron dome rockets until Hamas will get tired.
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No the rockets are inexcusable, but you have both the military hardware and precision to not have the collateral damage (I hate that phrase - let's call a spade a spade: Dead innocent people) that the IDF clearly doesn't give a shit about.
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Let me ask you something: what happens if 20 missiles are launched at once from the Gaza strip? how effective is Iron Dome then?
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Each Iron Dome single deployment launcher has 20 interceptors in them. So if there's only one launcher near then statistically, 1 might get through.
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I don't think it's ok, i'm a fucking hippie. I wish there were no wars in the world and i'm sure humanity has more to offer than all of this pointless bullshit.
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But you do think it's OK. You think the Asymetical warfare as pointed out by L4C is somehow justifiable. It's not.
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But i'm not going to apologize that more of my people didn't die so it will look more proportionate to the rest of the world, i blame these deaths on Hamas and on extreme Muslims who insist on perpetuating the Palestinian problem.
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Stop trying that bullshit defense. No one, and certainly not me in the thread has ever suggested more Jews should have died to match the insane number of Palestinian casualties.
The only answer is that you should be ashamed of how many innocents the IDF killed in your name.
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Why That doesn't gel with current Israeli politics? because the Israelis WANT to hurt innocent Palestinians or is it because of security reasons?
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Security obviously, but as said before at least the people at the top of the IDF don't give two shits about dead children.
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How can i allow you to import cement when you use it to dig terror tunnels below my house? fertilizers to make bombs etc...
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Yes, becuase every drop of cement is to make "terror tunnels". Lol, listen to the propaganda in that term - just like when republicans call all venture capitalists "job creators".
You know a lot of those tunnels are just for simple trade, even getting food supplies in (as you know they can't buy anything from outside their region) and freedom of movement.
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How can i allow you to travel freely in Israel when many of your people are murderous fanatics who blew buses,stabbed and launched missiles at civilians? |
"allow them"? Listen to yourself. Allow them to travel. Straight out of the reich.
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