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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer its great fun, fuck off you yanks.

absurd one liners such as the one above helped increase your post count to 8,000?

lame

>JM<

Wow ... I missed a lot in a week. Anyway Renegade you made some excellent points and unfortunately I don't have enough time to do a crapload of research to come up with counterarguments before the topic dies hehe.

In retrospect I really do think the US should simply abandon the region. I think we can get the oil imports from the middle east (approximately 20% of our imports) elsewhere around the world and compensate with alternative fuels. Israel should be able to take care of itself now ... and I'm sick of the resentment we get in general. Maybe we should ressurrect the isolationism we had back in the 1900s ... at least we didn't have such a bad rep.

SADDAM HUSSEIN IS A MAD MAN...

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

GET RID OF HIM AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE.

CASE CLOSED

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Originally posted by occrider Wow ... I missed a lot in a week. Anyway Renegade you made some excellent points and unfortunately I don't have enough time to do a crapload of research to come up with counterarguments before the topic dies hehe. In retrospect I really do think the US should simply abandon the region. I think we can get the oil imports from the middle east (approximately 20% of our imports) elsewhere around the world and compensate with alternative fuels. Israel should be able to take care of itself now ... and I'm sick of the resentment we get in general. Maybe we should ressurrect the isolationism we had back in the 1900s ... at least we didn't have such a bad rep.

ah haah!

now theres an interesting statement. fact: Norway is the worlds number 3 oil producing country in the world, but is the US's #8 supplier - theres your oil right there. alternative fuels are becoming viable now as well, and they are a necessary step in the future - why not sooner rather than later?

isolationism is interesting too. the world likes to complain about the US, but our success has come from our inability not to get drawn into world affairs, esp ~100 yrs ago and to the present. its an interesting idea, but not likely, and possibly devastating for those who profess to hate us and fail to see themselves as intrinsically linked to the US. late|

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I FRIGGIN LOVE MY COUNTRY - GOD BLESS THE USA

I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisble, with liberty and justice for all....PLAY BALL!

So JM your defending America eh!?!? Well i dont really disagree. Theve got problems and a bit of violence in the mix. However EVERY country has a bloody,violent past. Kinda ties into human nature I guess. IM wondering why u started this thred tho. People do have a right to "free speech' dont they? Isnt that American? Even without proof of statement right?? Just because u may not like them doesnt really mean there "ignorant" or "(immature)". Perhaps joining or creating a forum that only admits supported opinions so u can have a suposedly "mature" debate would solve this problem??

Being Canadian i look at America as a similar nation but lacking healthcare and international news coverage. This sux cuz people i meet in america only tend to know about whats going on in there back yards and the one or two things going on in the news. CASE IN POINT. When OJ and Tonia Harding (who cares how u spell her name) were in the news there was a massive slaughter in Ruwanda and 1 million people were killed. HOWEVER NOBODY CARED AND I DIDNT SEE THE US NEWS TALK ABOUT THAT FOR EVEN 10 MINS BUT THE OJ TRIAL GETS MONTHS OF COVERAGE FFS. 1 mill vs 1 nichole and 1 stupid skater. HOW PATHETIC IS THAT. Maybee im crazy but i think a nation that is a powerfull as the US which plays such a huge part in the world should at least inform its people of 1 million deaths. Other than that America is a cool place too live. OH YA THEVE GOT PISSTANKLOADS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ITs sooooo easy to come by down there its not even funny. MAkes all my hard work in Canada seem like a joke. : )

oh ya JM wants proof of claim.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0613/p09s02-coop.html
The end of the article says it all.

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- Yeah, thats true, America lacks International, and even wide national coverage, unless you watch FOX NEWS, CNN, ar ABC, CBS ALL DAY!!!!!!! In that matter I like BBC. ANd I lived in CHile for 11 years, they even do better with the news.

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Well Chicagoland does get commercial free BBC world on a local channel/ you can sorta watch on their webpage. Some differences come to mind when CNN and BBC cover the same story. The BBC didn't mute out a alleged terroist saying something along the lines of this is simply politics while he was walking handcuffed to a cop car, and you hear foreign politicians speeches for more then a 'importent' phrase. BBC tends to show injured/dead far more explicitly. It also tends to just cover a subject in a couple minutes time in a decent manner rather then dragging it out showing lots of fancy graphics/text on the screen every 30s. The biggest diffence as you mentioned already is the limited international coverage on CNN.

Wow, this thread got resurrected out of the blue ... hehe let's hope it peacefully dies again.

I don't even bother reading the 'news' anymore...

I go to certain sites to obtain facts on what happened that day, and dont read the opinions.. and then I look here for whats REALLY going on ... and try to piece together the truth ...