from LA times comments:

This article was also posted on CBS, my question is, where were the parents?

Sure, Raves are huge venues to do drugs, but the bottom line is, this was a 16+ event and the girl was 15. The parents need to take some responsibility before they start trying to blame Insomniac or EDC. People need to be more responsible for their own actions, and need to stop trying to blame others for their problems. People get in car accidents all the time right? Yet it doesn't stop us from driving.

Posted by: Gareth Emery | June 29, 2010 at 08:51 PM

- I cant believe GTR actually posted on the articles comments

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Originally posted by jimji1005 While I was in line by the side of the street I saw a mom dropping her obviously 13ish daughter dressed in underwear off at the rave...

Yeah I saw plenty of kids getting picked up by their parents at the end of the night. I wanted to berate the parents for being so irresponsible/absent minded. Not my place though.

As for the girl who died, apparently she drank too much water as her sodium levels were virtually non existent.

There was another article highlighting the dangers or raves, etc. I've heard a range of 250-150 were taken to the hospital. Say 250 got taken to the hospital out of 185,000. Thats a .0012% of attendees. Half of that -.0006%. Negligible in my book and no where near substantial to draw connections or saw its dangerous.

When I'm older I'd allow my kid to go alone once they hit college but have no intention of exposing them to raves any earlier.

Meh some parents are worthless

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Originally posted by SFtrance Yeah I saw plenty of kids getting picked up by their parents at the end of the night. I wanted to berate the parents for being so irresponsible/absent minded. Not my place though. As for the girl who died, apparently she drank too much water as her sodium levels were virtually non existent. There was another article highlighting the dangers or raves, etc. I've heard a range of 250-150 were taken to the hospital. Say 250 got taken to the hospital out of 185,000. Thats a .0012% of attendees. Half of that -.0006%. Negligible in my book and no where near substantial to draw connections or saw its dangerous. When I'm older I'd allow my kid to go alone once they hit college but have no intention of exposing them to raves any earlier. Meh some parents are worthless

.12%. Gotta move that decimal 2 places.

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Originally posted by Trance O Matic chris lawrence was amazing, best set I heard, he caned it. would have liked to see him on the main stage for sure. much better than most of the crap on there.

Ditto. Would have loved to hear some Christopher Lawrence in the stadium at some point, just what it needed, seemed to miss the mark musically on that point.

I've been reading about the death and fence jumping at EDC and other complaints and unfortunately when you get crowds of that size, whether it be rock festivals or whatever, sad events like that will occur. I hope it doesn't make us a target for the govt and cops again because I was personally proud and quite overwhelmed when I saw the huge crowd at EDC. I thought back to the very first EDC's that I went to and it made proud of how far our scene has come.

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Originally posted by Mhubert420 from LA times comments: This article was also posted on CBS, my question is, where were the parents? Sure, Raves are huge venues to do drugs, but the bottom line is, this was a 16+ event and the girl was 15. The parents need to take some responsibility before they start trying to blame Insomniac or EDC. People need to be more responsible for their own actions, and need to stop trying to blame others for their problems. People get in car accidents all the time right? Yet it doesn't stop us from driving. Posted by: Gareth Emery | June 29, 2010 at 08:51 PM - I cant believe GTR actually posted on the articles comments

That can't be GTM... it doesn't sound like British to me lol

where is the sexy accent!

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Insomniac is playing with fire. I don’t begrudge them for selling out in order to make money. But the issue of underage attendees is a political hot potato. Age restriction should have been enforced and I guarantee you there is going to be political fall out.

Wanna know why the feds don’t go after users? Because when they finally arrest an otherwise law abiding, famous and respected doctor/lawyer/investment banker/professor, the regular voters will get pissed. There is no political constituency to defend the dealers, so they are the primary targets.

If EDC enforces 18+, then if anyone dies, it’s just a young adult - it won’t get the same attention as a teenager. People love puppies, but they don’t care nearly as much about dogs.

EDC should realize the fact that these events are attracting enormous numbers of retarded newbies, and when they die, politicians are there to grandstand. People in the scene know to experiment at home first so they know the effect and not to take things from someone who isn’t knowledgeable and responsible (and they know which good friends are NOT to be trusted when they offer something). Too many newbies following one another and trying things without any information = end of massives.

Pretty soon you’ll have to drive to the desert to attend one of these things when state and local officials decide to cut these events off.

To be honest, I wouldn’t even call EDC a rave anymore. It’s really just an electronic music oriented MUSIC FESTIVAL – Coachella with multiple electronic tents. Lil’ Jon rambling on main stage about beating the f* out of peeps is not my idea of PLUR.

1/185k people?

wanst last years like 10 deaths?

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Insomniac has sold out to the mainstream with promoting lil john and will i am. I hope everyone realizes that this was a direct insult to all of those that would like to see the EDM scene stay Edm. Come on, the trance stage was the smallest this year. Next year, you'll see lady gaga up there doing her wacked out performance.

newsflash: modern club hiphop IS edm.

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Originally posted by system-7 Insomniac has sold out to the mainstream with promoting lil john and will i am. I hope everyone realizes that this was a direct insult to all of those that would like to see the EDM scene stay Edm. Come on, the trance stage was the smallest this year. Next year, you'll see lady gaga up there doing her wacked out performance.

i agree.

if you take all the commercial bs and keep it 100% trance, chances are you won't run into as many issues.