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discojoe
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Ottawa Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Yes, but even though he's worth over $54 BILLION dollars he's donated over 54% of that to charity...

Is that greedy capitalism?


he hasnt donated 54% to charity. he doesnt have anywhere near that in liquid cash. The majority of the 54 billion in assets he has is in microsoft stock. ( i think he has about 800 million shares or something). but he and his wife's charity has given alot though i must admit

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haha i guess i stand corrected

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jon jon
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Alright, I'm outta of this thread, not enough drama.

Everyone is agreeing!!!


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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
Alright, I'm outta of this thread, not enough drama.

Everyone is agreeing!!!


I say bring in the zamboni!

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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
most of my threads sink pretty fast, so maybe thats why

lmao

I'd write my opinions on all this, but I really am too lazy to get into a hot discussion; but I'll just say this about the people who are saying that we shouldn't be told what to do with our money. You're right, we shouldn't. We live in a democracy (i use the term loosely in some aspects) and we shouldn't be told what to do with our possessions; but we are told what to do with it all. Every day you see commercials on TV, ad's in magazines, on the net, telling you to buy this and that. And like all these product advert's, you have charity companies who are asking you to donate to the poor.

But whatever; no system is perfect. There will always be flaws with any political system because, when it comes right down to it, you can't please everybody.

With that being said; I support capitalism simply because I believe that people should have the free will to start a business and make money for their own survival, for their own benefits; BUT, I think that capitalism should be controlled better. Yea, Bill Gates spent countless nights busting his ass off, and all that hard work paid off and he deserves most of it, but being worth more than almost half a country like the US is a little too much; especially when you got so many people in the world itself who never get an oppurtunity to make even a dollar.

edit: well! so much for being lazy and trying not to get into the argument, lol.




no worries man , the whole capitalism debate is played out anyways..

both sides usually just go home in more firm belief of their original opinions than they were before the discussion..




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^^^cool. I didn't know. It seems like he doesn't boast too much about his charities. I do remember one that he give computers to schools or something.




yeah , he's not only rich but humble too .. i mean u dun see him with ice all over and diamond studded rims on his H2..


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quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Not to pick on one point Aaron but I'm fucking really poor. And to tell me that I'm less intelligent then some rich kid that inherited all their money is really a bad point to make.


It's all about the "financial" intelligence... meaning, you can be the smartest person in the city, but if you don't know how money works and how to make it work for you, you'll end up poor, or close to it.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Since nobody seems to have paid any attention to my original post, I'm going to repeat it in part:

The very idea of requiring people to give their money away to the "less fortunate" (read: less intelligent) is completely morally bankrupt. These people should be free to do whatever they choose with their money.

Forcing them to give their money away either by law, or by labelling them as "greedy, heartless" people, is greedy and heartless in and of itself. Who are you to decide who is more deserving of that money? What gives you the right to decide who gets it?


I'm with you on that one... even tho I don't make that much, I really don't like the idea of other people making MY money THEIR business. Now if I was making a few millions, I'd hate that idea even more, and so would everyone else.

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Originally posted by LadyLotus
Ok, so as we are watching commercials about starving children (usually from africa) ... where only taught to assume that they dont know how to take care of themselves.... when in actuality those supposedly SMART people who understand how money works, are so smart that they take whatever valuable resourses they can find from these poor countries, for what?! No not to help them? BUT TO SUPRESS THEM MORE!

Being smart is one thing... but being greedy and heartless is another.

So your obviously some rich money hungry person?

HAHAHAHAHA


Ok there, little baby... sure, there are bad people with lot of money and power (George W. Bush comes to mind?), but there are many of them that give away more money to charities than you will earn in your lifetime. Btw, when was the last time you sponsored a child or sent some $$$ to people in Africa? ... (silence)... That's what I thought...


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quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
...It annoys me because we have the OBLIGATION to better ourselves and the entire species...

I'm all for bettering myself as individual, but where's your logic behind this statement as a generality?

quote:
...so that the world can become a better place by precisely telling those people to do just that.

And what makes you think that doing just that will make this world a better place?

Let me tell you, there are more than a few people who have theorized that our interference with developing countries is actually hurting their development. Think about it - we throw money at them, make it so they don't have to fight for their survival, and their development becomes all skewed and disproportionate.

quote:
To have a desire to help others. If they don't have that then they aren't human...

Now that's going overboard.

quote:
...or at least they have no sense or morality by wanting to help others.

True, but morality isn't measured on an absolute scale (that's material for another debate altogether). Just because it's immoral to you does not make it immoral period.

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I just want balance damn it!

Seems to me that there is "balance" now matter how the wealth is distributed. If you take a scale and put five 10-pound weights on one side and 100 half-pound weights on the other side, it's balanced. You're asking for the exact same number of weights on each side - but why is this a better arrangement?


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Thanks Emery - if it wasn't for your play-by-play commentary, this thread would have gotten boring by now.


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quote:
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Thanks Emery - if it wasn't for your play-by-play commentary, this thread would have gotten boring by now.



hey Crocodile Dundee was on again 2nite!


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hey Crocodile Dundee was on again 2nite!

Looking at the posts in this thread, actually, I'd say yours account for about 25% of those 11 pages.


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