Originally posted by Floorfiller
what is that supposed to mean? he isn't supposed to send out promo copies to dj's? gee that is a real great way to get your new track out there...
As long as you do it with the full knowledge that someone is going to rip it to mp3 and share it on the internet.
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and besides...didn't someone say that this was a liveset rip that was reconstructed? doesn't seem like that would be max's fault then does it?
It's not his fault, but should he complain? Shouldn't he have known that there was a glaring possibility of this happening when he(or someone else) used an unreleased track in his (or their) set?
This isn't the dark ages. Information is recorded and spread almost at the speed of thought.
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Sep-23-2004 02:51
trancebrat
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Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE
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Originally posted by Laushinameee
what a load of bullshit! Why do you suddenly have to be an artist to comment on other peoples work? That isnt the way the world works
max graham should be compared to his colleagues, not to members of TA. otherwise wouldnt everyone be the best dj ever?
stop talking utter shit.
I wasn't aware that you had provided constructive criticism. I have a right to my opinion too and it looks like I voiced it. Isn't the internet great? God I love TA.
Sep-23-2004 02:51
Tranz
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Originally posted by Laushinameee
what a load of bullshit! Why do you suddenly have to be an artist to comment on other peoples work? That isnt the way the world works
max graham should be compared to his colleagues, not to members of TA. otherwise wouldnt everyone be the best dj ever?
stop talking utter shit.
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Sep-23-2004 02:51
Floorfiller
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Originally posted by Radagast
As long as you do it with the full knowledge that someone is going to rip it to mp3 and share it on the internet.
It's not his fault, but should he complain? Shouldn't he have known that there was a glaring possibility of this happening when he used an unreleased track in his set?
should people be able to rip vinyls to cdr's and sell them? no. i think we'll both agree on that.
then should people be able to rip a vinyl and play it in a set designed to sell their abilities as a dj? no.
as we've all already said...if this was just someone listening to it at home on their computer...i don't think anyone would care, but this person was using it as a promotional tool...and that's the problem.
Sep-23-2004 02:53
DJ Intrigue
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Central PA
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Originally posted by Radagast
Again, if he didn't want people illegally sharing his track it was within his power to keep the track under wraps until it was released.
In today's day and age broadcasting unreleased work anywhere at any time and expecting people not to record it or spread it through technological mediums is stupid. I'm not saying that the file sharers are right, but don't complain when you had the power to keep the track to yourself.
My thoughts exactly. This is exactly what I argued and argued about in that great big 20+ page thread about a month ago where some producer was bitching about the same shit. I'm sure some of you remember that thread, as it got pretty heated and was closed by request of the thread starter.
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Sep-23-2004 02:56
trancebrat
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE
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Originally posted by Tranz
Ummm...Sly actually wore that shirt out in public? Errr
Sep-23-2004 02:56
trancebrat
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE
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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
My thoughts exactly. This is exactly what I argued and argued about in that great big 20+ page thread about a month ago where some producer was bitching about the same shit. I'm sure some of you remember that thread, as it got pretty heated and was closed by request of the thread starter.
Indeed I remember. Andy Bagguley
Sep-23-2004 02:58
Radagast
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
should people be able to rip vinyls to cdr's and sell them? no. i think we'll both agree on that.
They shouldn't, but they do.
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then should people be able to rip a vinyl and play it in a set designed to sell their abilities as a dj? no.
They shouldn't, but they do.
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as we've all already said...if this was just someone listening to it at home on their computer...i don't think anyone would care, but this person was using it as a promotional tool...and that's the problem.
So Max would have no problem with his unreleased track being heard by 1000 people downloading it off of DCC and listening to it on their computers, but if someone put it in a set and gave the set to 1000 people now it's wrong?
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Sep-23-2004 02:58
trancebrat
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE
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Originally posted by Radagast
So Max would have no problem with his unreleased track being heard by 1000 people downloading it off of DCC and listening to it on their computers, but if someone put it in a set and gave the set to 1000 people now it's wrong?
Let's not speculate. No one should be answering questions like that on Max's behalf.
Sep-23-2004 02:59
Floorfiller
Girl + Sweater = Hotness
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's
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Originally posted by Laushinameee
what a load of bullshit! Why do you suddenly have to be an artist to comment on other peoples work? That isnt the way the world works
max graham should be compared to his colleagues, not to members of TA. otherwise wouldnt everyone be the best dj ever?
stop talking utter shit.
boy you really didn't understand her post at all did you. you had basically said that max graham bla bla bla wanted to be doing livesets in europe bla bla bla and that he must have a lot of time on his hands hence he's posting on the boards.
i believe what trancebrat was saying, which was understood by the rest of us able to read, was that she didn't say anything about you having to be an artist to comment on their work. she was merely pointing out the fact that you aren't a professional dj aren't really in any position to comment on max's success...
Sep-23-2004 02:59
Laushinameee
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Leicester/Sheffield, UK
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Originally posted by Radagast
So Max would have no problem with his unreleased track being heard by 1000 people downloading it off of DCC and listening to it on their computers, but if someone put it in a set and gave the set to 1000 people now it's wrong?
This is exactly what ive been trying to get people to understand for the past 20 pages. Some people just make no sense.
Sep-23-2004 02:59
trancebrat
Terry Bones' wife
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, FL & Frameries, BE
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Originally posted by Laushinameee
This is exactly what ive been trying to get people to understand for the past 20 pages. Some people just make no sense.