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Originally posted by isoterra well can't say I do... I think he's a mediocre dj at best & don't bother checking out his sets often.. only going by what corsten-addicts seem to say on here

yeh and their knowledge of electro would fit on a stamp. Even tiesto plays more credible stuff than corsten.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee so if i prefer PvD to zabiela then im ignorant and a dumb fuck? whatever. I'm convinced that you have 'no fuckin clue' either & that youre simply another one of these gimps whos suddenly decided to get into breakbeat because they think its a bit cool. Dont confuse me with some of the other twats who think PvD is 'god' and can do no wrong. But understand that he was around shaping the music scene when zabiela was still only about 10 years old. Dont get taken in by the hype, hes an average dj at best. So what if he tries loads of tricks? Jeff Mills has based his whole career on that, and hes losing more and more respect by the day. Until zabiela can prove himself a good dj in terms of his actual musical sound, rather than in terms of some novelty act, then i have very little time for him. are you american?

I seem to remember it taking Sasha quite a long ass time to make a studio album. He did productions every now and again, but making a studio album = no live djing. zabiela is still riding off of his success as of late to do a studio...

but as to your earlier comment about GTDJ001, you might think the mixing is atrocious because its not like trance; the exact same beat in almost every track, the tempos are relatively the same, and its way more popular so more people make tracks for him to play. the shit that zabiela is playing is so uniquely different in its sound and beat. its not that the beat is different, but its how its organized. trance has the same organization, and ive heard the guy mix in bob marley, and then his usual stuff.

and before you tell me oh you've never heard pvd, i used to be a pvd/tiesto/armin/trance fan until i heard 1 zabiela set from may 2002. trance is good in certain situations, but not for listening at home where you can't dance to it....

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Eddie Halliwell, Acosta and Nu NRG. Sorry its just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Sasha` I seem to remember it taking Sasha quite a long ass time to make a studio album. He did productions every now and again, but making a studio album = no live djing. zabiela is still riding off of his success as of late to do a studio... but as to your earlier comment about GTDJ001, you might think the mixing is atrocious because its not like trance; the exact same beat in almost every track, the tempos are relatively the same, and its way more popular so more people make tracks for him to play. the shit that zabiela is playing is so uniquely different in its sound and beat. its not that the beat is different, but its how its organized. trance has the same organization, and ive heard the guy mix in bob marley, and then his usual stuff. and before you tell me oh you've never heard pvd, i used to be a pvd/tiesto/armin/trance fan until i heard 1 zabiela set from may 2002. trance is good in certain situations, but not for listening at home where you can't dance to it....

mixing is atrocious because its not like trance? please. The tracks on that are all 'prog', it was done way before zabiela decided he was a breakbeat dj. He plays a couple of tracks by Dan Goodall on there, and PvD also plays Dan Goodall tracks. The two djs will mix the tracks the exact same way. Its a standard 4/4 track with an intro & an outro. Dont make it out like zabiela is playing music really 'alternative' and different to trance, because on that compilation, he isnt. If he cant get in the studio and mix a 4/4 slow prog track into the next then thats just the way he is. Plenty of other over hyped djs cant do this either. Just because he covers this up with a lot of ''skill'' shouldnt blind idiots to the fact that he is AVERAGE at best.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee mixing is atrocious because its not like trance? please. The tracks on that are all 'prog', it was done way before zabiela decided he was a breakbeat dj. He plays a couple of tracks by Dan Goodall on there, and PvD also plays Dan Goodall tracks. The two djs will mix the tracks the exact same way. Its a standard 4/4 track with an intro & an outro. Dont make it out like zabiela is playing music really 'alternative' and different to trance, because on that compilation, he isnt. If he cant get in the studio and mix a 4/4 slow prog track into the next then thats just the way he is. Plenty of other over hyped djs cant do this either. Just because he covers this up with a lot of ''skill'' shouldnt blind idiots to the fact that he is AVERAGE at best.

i suggest you listen to his gainsville set from 2002....

i also like how you say 'skill' because id like to see you get up there and do what he does exactly. i can dj what pvd plays because i lived with turntables and a wall full of pvd / tiesto type records for a year and learned to do it. it took 2 days.

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Originally posted by Sasha` i suggest you listen to his gainsville set from 2002.... i also like how you say 'skill' because id like to see you get up there and do what he does exactly.

thats another AMAZING argument. Just because you cant do something means you arent allowed an opinion on it. any other nuggets like that or have you had enough talking shit for one day?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee thats another AMAZING argument. Just because you cant do something means you arent allowed an opinion on it. any other nuggets like that or have you had enough talking shit for one day?

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i can dj what pvd plays because i lived with turntables and a wall full of pvd / tiesto type records for a year and learned to do it. it took 2 days.

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Originally posted by Sasha` quoted for emphasis: i can dj what pvd plays because i lived with turntables and a wall full of pvd / tiesto type records for a year and learned to do it. it took 2 days.

ok so you arent finished keep them coming...

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Originally posted by Laushinameee ok so you arent finished keep them coming...

you like this button

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Originally posted by Sasha` you like this button

and you like talking shit

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Originally posted by Laushinameee and you like talking shit

you have been talking shit over the whole thread. as do you.

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Originally posted by Sasha` you have been talking shit over the whole thread. as do you.

maybe in your opinion i have, but you said this...

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also like how you say 'skill' because id like to see you get up there and do what he does exactly

and therefore you lost the argument.