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Originally posted by idoru This truly shows the lack of creativity amongst the scene as of late. Producers are too afraid to push the boundaries that have been set over the past seven years. Look at all of the upcoming producers that have been aired on ASOT and played by many DJs lately and you'll notice that all of their tunes have the same format as before; intro, build-up, breakdown, and end, complete with the same kicks and synths that we've heard time and time again. Record labels who own the rights to these songs see them as easy cash-ins, as people who are new to the scene generally don't know of the older originals, and thus will cream their pants as they spend money on less-than-mediocre remakes. What happened to originality? What happened to producers telling labels, "No, I wont do a 2005 Remix. I want to try something new"? Why are people so afraid to do something that hasn't be done, to actually use their brain? Maybe they just don't want to? Perhaps Trance has reached the point where it's popular enough to warrant "wanting to be famous" as an excuse for starting to produce. Maybe new producers just want to be noticed, and will only produce what sounds like ASOT in a vain attempt to be recognized. I dunno. In any case, these need to stop, and they need to stop now. They're far beyond the point of pathetic.

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Originally posted by CleverName I love the slash through the O in his name. People who have those slashoes always have the best name. Soren Kierkegaard, Trentmoller, all of 'em.

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I don't really have a problem with new remixes because if a producer likes a track alot they can do what they want with it, for all we know it could even be there favourite track of all time. Who knows? Everybody has a favourite song even djs believe it or not and I think alot of producers starting out will agree that the first track/remix they made was of their favourite song.

IMO they are entitled to do there own interpritation of it because 1: It could fit more into the style of the sets they play where as the original doesn't 2: They want a faster version of the original, hence the hard house versions etc.. 3: They really like elements of the original but not all of it. Running out of examples but you get what I mean.

Also I can see why people say producers are running out of ideas but I don't get why people say so and so have killed a classic, not trying to cause an argument but the original is not going anywhere is it

If I don't like a "2005 remix" or whatever it is called I won't buy it or even bother listening to it again if I can help it, simple as that. I will continue to use my favourite version track be it new or old.

was going thro a random old gc cd earlier & came across the BeatPusher rmx of pulser- cloudwalking. Have to say this is an exception to the general rule as it's superb

theres a new remix of insomnia just been made
faithless - insomnia (lee haslam mix)

www.leehaslam.com/

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Originally posted by Ian^ was going thro a random old gc cd earlier & came across the BeatPusher rmx of pulser- cloudwalking. Have to say this is an exception to the general rule as it's superb

IMO it's a HORRIBLE rape of a great classic! but i loved beat pusher's murto (not the horrible vocal versions though) and rokki (rokki especially, which is such a great tune yet no one seems to know it)

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Originally posted by sleepydragon theres a new remix of insomnia just been made faithless - insomnia (lee haslam mix) www.leehaslam.com/

sasha has made a remix too and afaik it's new. faithless is gonna cash in properly on their old tracks now afaik and release more of these updated versions.

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Originally posted by skip IMO it's a HORRIBLE rape of a great classic! but i loved beat pusher's murto (not the horrible vocal versions though) and rokki (rokki especially, which is such a great tune yet no one seems to know it)

I think its really tasteful as I said, I can listen to it and not feel like the original mixes have been cheapened at all.

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Originally posted by Ian^ I think its really tasteful as I said, I can listen to it and not feel like the original mixes have been cheapened at all.

to each their own. i just love the original and astral mixes.

but what do you think of murto and rokki?

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Originally posted by skip to each their own. i just love the original and astral mixes. but what do you think of murto and rokki?

murto is ok, never grabbed me that much, don't know the other

The Beatpusher remix of Cloudwalking is amazing. Its even better than the original and Astral remix. Such an awesome remix!!
yeah I agree Rokki is a masterpiece which is really really underrated.

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Originally posted by skip sasha has made a remix too and afaik it's new. faithless is gonna cash in properly on their old tracks now afaik and release more of these updated versions.

armand van helden and sister bliss have also remixed this track
its going to be released with all remixes celebrating 10 yrs of faithless, and they have not sold out...

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You forgot:
Rank 1 - Breathing (Airwave 2003)
Tiësto - Athena

This year's remakes:

Signum - What Ya Got For Me 2006
Primer - Everlast (Ben Gold's 2006 Remix)
Kamaya Painters - Endless Wave (Andy Bagguley's 2006 Rework)
M.I.K.E - Strange World 2006
Solar Stone - The Calling 2006 (Jonas Steur Mix)
Randy Katana - Plastic Fantastic
Chicane - Saltwater 2006
Fire & Ice - Lost Emotions (Bryan Kearney's 2006 Remix)
Jones & Stephenson - The First Rebirth 2006 (Remixes by Primer/Solid Slide/Antidote ...)
Airwave - Sunspot 2006
Airwave - When Things Go Wrong 2006
Tiësto - Lethal Industry (Richard Durand's 2006 Remix)
Riley & Durant - Toccata 2006
Hiver & Hammer - Fusion 2006 (Remixes by Carl B, Sonicvibe, Funabashi, Super8)

and the list goes on

Last edited by Push2005 on Jul-25-2006 at 15:55