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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE Personally, I think its an embarrassment to have these young women compete in those ridiculous outfits on an international level.

they look like man's soccer team......

JESUS CHRIST!!!

I come looking at this thread for some nice degrading pictures of women...and what do I get, Zzzzzzzzzz

I actually started to read the article, but my head fell on the keyboard, won't have to worry about that insomnia problem now

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Originally posted by Cyrus King The website you quoted was explaining through assumptions

Yes, a lot of the justification was through assumption, but still based on hadith, so there was also primary source evidence that would back it up...I'm sure you saw them when you clicked on the link.

However, I commend you for finding the exact hadith...I have the complete collection of Sahih al-Bukhari at home and I will look for Volume 7, Book 62 (somewhere in a box in my basement) and I will re-affirm what we're finding on the internet.

I also want to thank you for teaching me something I didn't know, which is that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) actually saw Ayesha in a dream, and that Allah had destined this union. If this is the case, then there is absolutely no further argument that I can offer!

Just as the Quran and Islam was revealed directly to the Prophet (pbuh) and we believe this to be true, we believe any other documented and authenticated (through strong hadith--like the ones from Bukhari) communications to him from Allah have to be true. If this is Hadith certified by Bukhari, then, as you said, it is practically fact (although not as strong as the Quran itself).

So yes, you could interpret this is pedophilia but because of the divine source of this marriage, it's not something that you can attach a worldly meaning to; it's something very sacred and special, and Ayesha is one of the most honorable women in Islam (there are hadith that indicate that the top three women (in terms of honour, piety, and faith in God) are Mary (mother of Jesus), Ayesha, and Fatima (daughter of the Prophet (pbuh)). I remember this from the teachings at the mosque I attend; forgive me if I'm wrong but I will again check this out.

There are many other hadith that indicate the love that Ayesha and the Prophet (pbuh) had for eachother and how she was the best of the wives of the Prophet (pbuh). So you can't just focus on her age when the marriage was consummated but on her role in Islam, and her importance to the Prophet (pbuh). She was a very strong advocate and extremely intelligent.

Obviously, if the Prophet (pbuh) dreamt of her, this had to be a special woman.

P.S. "pbuh" means "Peace Be Upon Him" which is a statement of respect that Muslims will use when speaking or writing about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Zzzzzzz *snort* Zzzzzzzz




...I still like you though, Fayraree

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Originally posted by TheVrk I could NEVER possibly read that entire article .....

LOLL!!!

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If you want someone to see your viewpoint, you need to explain the issue and what it means to you. Tell us how you perceive it and how you came to the coclusions you did. you are coming from a different perspective on the issue that many of us do not understand perhaps because we were never exposed to it, or learned about certain issues. I took womens studies last year and i know the frustration that can sometimes come about when my friends completely discard soemthing that ive learned in class to be true for example. i also learned though that if i take the time to expalin where my ideas and thoughts are coming from, it makes more sense. Not to say they always agree, but they see how others can see it differently... ( no , im not a man-hater :P)
Let us know the whats and whys, im sure you'll get better feedback than by assuming everyones dumb=)

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Originally posted by 8Wonders Unibrow alert!

fucking funny
hahhahaha

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Originally posted by xls I'm no fan of organized religion, but that's a fucking ignorant statement no matter how you slice it.

common people everybody has their own culture and religious believe and the best it's to respect everyone...it's really sad to see all the fighting around the world for the simple mistake of a misunderstandind...(i need to smoke another one, i'm runnig out of vocabulary)hahaha

anyway it's really difficult to understant each religions...there are so many statements about each religions in this world (the catholic are preaks and gays , the jewish people selfish , the arabs nuts and the buddists are slow)take it like a joke!!! in other words doesn't matter what religious we are we are people and we have to respect eachother...i'm done

peace everybody we supposed to be talking about music and drugs,parties,etc

ps never talk about politics, religious and woman theme because it's going to end in a fight.... peace