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BeeJay
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Groningen

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Unfortunately I don’t think Tijs sees all this coming – because whenever he steps into a booth he is overcome by thousands upon thousands of mad clubbers praising the very ground he is walking on. It’s pretty hard to form any kind of self-appraisal when the only reaction you’re getting is 110% OMG positive.


Unfortunately? As if he cares. When his sales will start falling, he has got enough money anyway (already has). Every artist comes and goes. Tiesto and trance will be finished in about 3 years I guess (Holland speeking).

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Sasha's already where he wants to be and doesn't need some stupid #1 spot in a retarded poll to feel better about himself.


As if that was his idea. Gimme a break. Tiesto made a fantastic career, he can be proud. Started as a young boy in Breda and made it to the top, that's why he deserves most respect, despite you like his most recent works. You can at least respect the guy. When you become as big as he is, you need a management team and they got only one goal: money.
Eminem, same fuckin story. Was nothing, became big, management team joined with one goal: earning money. I know for sure he lost his actual fans with his most recent, but gained the mainstream and the money.

Personally, I still love to turn on Tiesto's work before 2002: ISOS < 4, Magik, Forbidden Paradise and his vinyl from that periode.


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Old Post Feb-03-2006 17:14  Netherlands
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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
Yay! the topic is restarted

In 2003 Tiesto had the 'Invited By Tiesto' nights designed to be the party where Tijs could invite guests in a similar style to the Fundacion nights. However I’d say in hindsight they turned out to be more a good excuse for Tijs to invite his own heroes along to play: Tong, G&D etc.
His opinion (in a recent interview)on Phynn, BH artists – they are getting his full support as artists when he plays their productions, and that he is there if they ever wanted a talk or advice.

Clovis is definitely right by one statement – he definitely wanted that no.1 spot badly. The interview with DJ Mag from 2003 is the clincher – where you can see that it’s no longer about the music – “yeah we were aiming to win it this year, off the back of the Concert – but got a shock when I already did it last year”.

It’s definitely where he wanted to be – but unlike Sasha or van Dyk – who IMO have found their niche and are quite happy to continue within their limits as DJs, it seems Tiesto based his ambitions on popularity & personal gratification rather than achieving praise for technical recognition.

I actually think its pretty lonely being Tiesto right now. He’s insulted his way through a few technicians in the studio, fallen out with various blackhole related producers that formed the backbone of his sets, created disunity and unrest in his fanbase, it’s the end of an era alright – the wheels finally fell off.

Its becoming more and more about the special events - the 'Pit Parties!" and the Disney sets. What a joke. DJs like Tiesto are definitely the new Rockstars. They're also going to be spat out of the industry just as quickly in a few years time.

Unfortunately I don’t think Tijs sees all this coming – because whenever he steps into a booth he is overcome by thousands upon thousands of mad clubbers praising the very ground he is walking on. It’s pretty hard to form any kind of self-appraisal when the only reaction you’re getting is 110% OMG positive.



So baisically, he's past the point of no return...? Interesting about the 2003 gigs, but it doesnt seem to be the same spirit of a Fundacion night. The idea behind Fundacion night is that you bring two DJ to the plate, and with them doing tag-team sets, the musical styles blend and the crowd wins in the end because they get a much more interesting show. Plus with Sasha and another big name on the ticket, the shows are guaranteed to sell out...so they are making cash off of it, thats for sure, but at least that isnt the main point of the night.

I respect Tiesto, for what he has done, I mean he certainly has been around the block, but its hard to respect someone who has turned their career into a circus act rather than anything based on talent or merit.

Hopefully later on he'll find a new passion for the music and it will reflect in his sets.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by BeeJay
As if that was his idea. Gimme a break. Tiesto made a fantastic career, he can be proud.



No, he wanted the #1 spot regardless of whether he deserved it or not, because clearly he did not.


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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto

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Originally posted by miamitranceman
Why not try to make useful posts?


cause the post i replied to was fuckin stupid
its sarcasm dumbass

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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

don't forget that Sasha was also voted as nr 1 dj in dj mag top 100 sometimes in the end of 90s. Though we never saw the same drop in quality as we did with Tiesto.


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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

tiesto could fuck up an ableton mix....

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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by Floorfiller
tiesto could fuck up an ableton mix....



Dude...so can Sasha...he wrecked HARD CORE when I saw him in vegas, out of the first track...


Like WOAH huge wreck!

Bas grabbed me and goes "Am I fucked up or did SASHA just fuckin trainwreck??!?!"

There are alot of ways things can go very wrong in Ableton...


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tiesto14
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

Sasha was a 1990s thing
Tiesto was an early 2000 thing
Now its all about the little guys.
And i am all for that.


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iammesol
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

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Originally posted by Floorfiller
tiesto could fuck up an ableton mix....


It's not that hard. You can blindly create doom itself by putting a warp mark in the wrong space.

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by iammesol
It's not that hard. You can blindly create doom itself by putting a warp mark in the wrong space.



Or incorrect track launch mode, or incorrect quantization, or incorrect start point, of if a loop region is off mark.

he list can go on


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Old Post Feb-04-2006 00:22  France
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cmay119
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Minnesota, USA

Tiesto is the MOST overrated producer/DJ on the planet. Don't get me wrong, there are a couple songs of his that I really would enjoy if he just added one more level of build up to a track.

For example, the track "Traffic" off the Just Be album could have been great, but since he didn't go the extra mile with the track it's now in just the sub-par category to me. Tiesto literaly blue balls me on every track I've heard of his. I'm sitting there listening to a track and diggin' the build up to what is supposed to be the climax of the track, but then stops building up. I then realize I'm listening to the meat and potatoes of the track and I wan't to throw a chair through a window.

That is why I dislike Tiesto, and will always dislike Tiesto. You know what after this schpeal, I think I'm going back to House and dancing my night away.

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iammesol
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

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Originally posted by Clovis86
Or incorrect track launch mode, or incorrect quantization, or incorrect start point, of if a loop region is off mark.

he list can go on



don't remind me Clovis!

Old Post Feb-04-2006 00:59  United States
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