At first I thought; "Oh god, which nut-job bumped this goddamn thread again"..........but then I read your post Tiesto. Classic.

Bravo.

OMG, those are all very easy questions to answer!!! I might answer this if have some time.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 (QUESTION) If there was a conspiracy involved (cough bullshit cough) and Bush and his pals secretly orchestrated the biggest terror act of all time with secret explosives and hidden planes and whatever crap you retards (which you are) come up with to explain away your theories.....well why is that it was so friggen hard for Bush and his wacky clan to stash some VX nerve gas, some warheads or some other WMD in Husseins backyard in a bunker and then exclaim "AH HA WE TOLD U THERE WAS WMD"?....but no wait "THAT" would be to hard of a plan to do...bringing down 2 towers in NYC and penetrating the Pentagon is childs play compared to planting some WMD in the friggen desert hundreds of miles away from anyones sight...dumbasses...see how silly it seems already?

Why go to the trouble just to get credability? After all thats all it would achieve, as the invasion of Iraq had already taken place for what ever reason people want to think it was for.
Planting WMD would just have meant they could do exactly as you have suggested and say told you so.

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Show me ONE just ONE video or photo of ANY planned demolition that shows the building falling outwards and not inwards.

I dont subscribe to this, but if it was a planned demoliton, falling in or out makes no difference as it could have been designed to fall out. Besides the reason a building falls in is becasue the detonations occur in stages to weaken the inner structure of a building first causing it to collpase inward for safety reasons.
if all detonations occured at the same time, the building would not fall in on itself.

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Where did the planned/controlled explosives come from? Surely the quanity was enormous and had to be taken from somewhere thaqt keeps and inventory of such things. Now surely that man (but probally dozens of people) realized all that explosive was gone...how did they keep silent all these years?

it's not like they would go out and buy it...
Only the top X number of florrs would need to collapes to 'crush' the structure below it. But like I said I don't subscribe to this.

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you are so pissed there is no debrie at the Pentagon arent you? And you keep talking about wings...well where are the wings from the WTC planes or the wings from the Pennsylvania plane? Why MUST the Pentagon plane have its wings intact when it hit harder surfaces then any of the others...they friggen turned to confetti so move on.

Pissed? not in the slightest, I couldnt care less. I do however believe in the fact that there would be debris of the aircraft. Maybe the govt has just been able to withhold any of the photos that would indicate an engine or something else which would not turn to dust. The nature of the engine is components which are able to withstand severe impact, and heat, especially should one blow up in mid air. Imagine the consequences if it could not. there is no way it could just disintergrate.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 (QUESTION) If there was a conspiracy involved (cough bullshit cough) and Bush and his pals secretly orchestrated the biggest terror act of all time with secret explosives and hidden planes and whatever crap you retards (which you are) come up with to explain away your theories.....well why is that it was so friggen hard for Bush and his wacky clan to stash some VX nerve gas, some warheads or some other WMD in Husseins backyard in a bunker and then exclaim "AH HA WE TOLD U THERE WAS WMD"?....but no wait "THAT" would be to hard of a plan to do...bringing down 2 towers in NYC and penetrating the Pentagon is childs play compared to planting some WMD in the friggen desert hundreds of miles away from anyones sight...dumbasses...see how silly it seems already?

Why go to the trouble just to get credability? After all thats all it would achieve, as the invasion of Iraq had already taken place for what ever reason people want to think it was for.
Planting WMD would just have meant they could do exactly as you have suggested and say told you so.

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Show me ONE just ONE video or photo of ANY planned demolition that shows the building falling outwards and not inwards.

I dont subscribe to this, but if it was a planned demoliton, falling in or out makes no difference as it could have been designed to fall out. Besides the reason a building falls in is becasue the detonations occur in stages to weaken the inner structure of a building first causing it to collpase inward for safety reasons.
if all detonations occured at the same time, the building would not fall in on itself.

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Where did the planned/controlled explosives come from? Surely the quanity was enormous and had to be taken from somewhere thaqt keeps and inventory of such things. Now surely that man (but probally dozens of people) realized all that explosive was gone...how did they keep silent all these years?

it's not like they would go out and buy it...
Only the top X number of florrs would need to collapes to 'crush' the structure below it. But like I said I don't subscribe to this.

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you are so pissed there is no debrie at the Pentagon arent you? And you keep talking about wings...well where are the wings from the WTC planes or the wings from the Pennsylvania plane? Why MUST the Pentagon plane have its wings intact when it hit harder surfaces then any of the others...they friggen turned to confetti so move on.

Pissed? not in the slightest, I couldnt care less. I do however believe in the fact that there would be debris of the aircraft. Maybe the govt has just been able to withhold any of the photos that would indicate an engine or something else which would not turn to dust. The nature of the engine is components which are able to withstand severe impact, and heat, especially should one blow up in mid air. Imagine the consequences if it could not. there is no way it could just disintergrate.

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Originally posted by skot_e Why go to the trouble just to get credability? After all thats all it would achieve, as the invasion of Iraq had already taken place for what ever reason people want to think it was for. Planting WMD would just have meant they could do exactly as you have suggested and say told you so.

HA HA HA HA...so then what was the reason for orchestrating 9.11 in the first place? Most conspiracy theorists come up with their theories because they claim Bush and his crew was involved to plant themselves in Iraq...so if they went trhough all the work on doing 9.11 just to get to Iraq why not plant a WMD there.

Do you even read the thoughts behind these conspiracy theories? Or just read 4 lines and make you opinion up?

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Originally posted by skot_e I dont subscribe to this, but if it was a planned demoliton, falling in or out makes no difference as it could have been designed to fall out. Besides the reason a building falls in is becasue the detonations occur in stages to weaken the inner structure of a building first causing it to collpase inward for safety reasons. if all detonations occured at the same time, the building would not fall in on itself.

I didnt ask for your diagnosis...i asked for a video or photo...till you can provide one your, or whoesever it is, is bunk.

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Originally posted by skot_e it's not like they would go out and buy it... Only the top X number of florrs would need to collapes to 'crush' the structure below it. But like I said I don't subscribe to this..

Doesnt matter if they have to buy it or not...someone still keeps inventory on weapons in the military...in fact many many people do. Surely you cant keep all those nobodies silent.

Oh and yes they do buy it...parts and materials dont come from no where.

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Originally posted by skot_e Pissed? not in the slightest, I couldnt care less. I do however believe in the fact that there would be debris of the aircraft. Maybe the govt has just been able to withhold any of the photos that would indicate an engine or something else which would not turn to dust. The nature of the engine is components which are able to withstand severe impact, and heat, especially should one blow up in mid air. Imagine the consequences if it could not. there is no way it could just disintergrate.

No way it could disintergrate? Have you seens the phots from the Pennsylvania crash? no wings there either...because it crashed at such high speeds into something so strong that it turned to confetti.

Then what do u think it was a missile? a drone plane? FIne i will entertain that...but what of tghe passengers of the original plane? The air traffick controllers? the people seeing the plane fly buy?
Answer that and maybe you have something cooking...but thats the problem with conspiracy theorists like yourself...you FAIL time and time again to explain away the common sense aspects of the whole thing. All you say is wheres the plane parts and dismiss all the evidence against your theory. Such nonsense and waste of time.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 People like you really scare me and after i meet someone like yourself i feel compelled to wash my hands.

You hurt my feelings. Never met a long distance gangster such as yourself.

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YOU...yes YOU...beleive Bush and his crew had part in the 9.11 attacks but dont think it would of been childs play to plant some WMD in the desert? Do you see how flawed you are?

You should have rephrased that a bit but I'll answer anyway.

Skip to 51:20 where it talks about the US and others arming Iraq and then skip to 1:01:12 where it talks about Khamisiyah and the munitions contained within.
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq

Tim Osman A.K.A. Osama bin Laden:

NEW YORK, Aug. 24, 1998 — At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a code name: Blowback. Simply defined, this is the term that describes an agent, an operative or an operation that has turned on its creators. Osama bin Laden, our new public enemy Number 1, is the personification of blowback. And the fact that he is viewed as a hero by millions in the Islamic world proves again the old adage: Reap what you sow.
Bin Laden comes home to roost His CIA ties are only the beginning of a woeful story

In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, an Egyptian man named Emad Salem, who was involved with the bombing conspiracy. Salem claims to have informed the FBI of the plot to bomb the towers as early as February 6, 1992, information he was privy to possibly because he himself initiated the plot. Salem's role as informant allowed the FBI to quickly pinpoint the conspirators out of the hundreds of possible suspects.
Salem asserted that the original FBI plan was to supply the plotters with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that an FBI supervisor decided that a real bomb should be constructed instead. He substantiated his claims with hundreds of hours of secretly-recorded conversations with his FBI handlers, made during discussions held after the bombings.
Salem said he wished to complain to FBI headquarters in Washington about the failure to prevent the bombing despite foreknowledge, but was dissuaded from doing so by the New York FBI office. The FBI has never contradicted Salem's account.
(1993) World Trade Center bombing (Wikipedia Article)

The story begins in November 1990 when an Egyptian fundamentalist, El Sayid Nosair, shot and killed Meir Kahane, an extreme right-wing Israeli-American, in Manhattan. A year later, in November 1991, Nosair's trial became a cause celebre among local fundamentalists, who turned out in force to support their "martyr." Planted among them was an Egyptian, Emad Salem, working as an FBI informant, even as he maintained ties to Egyptian intelligence. In December, the jury returned a bizarre verdict, acquitting Nosair of murder and finding him guilty on lesser charges. An outraged judge gave Nosair a maximum sentence on those lesser charges, and sent him to Attica....

....On June 21, an Iraqi living in Baghdad, Abdul Rahman Yasin (subsequently an indicted fugitive in the Trade Center bombing) appeared at the U.S. embassy in Amman asking for a U.S. passport. Born in America, Abdul Rahman received his passport, which he soon used to travel to this country.
Just at this crucial point, unfortunately, the FBI lost track of the Nosair-Salameh conspiracy. It did not fully trust its informant, Emad Salem, and Salem's ties to Egyptian intelligence; the Bureau severed relations with him in early July when he refused to follow its procedures relating to criminal investigations.
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB:
Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush

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HHHmmmm...here is one for you...you like common sense?

Stop it you're hurting me.

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If everyone knows how come Al Jazeera isnt blasting this all over their airwaves? Surley they would LOVE to expose the Bush administration of its crime...but they dont...why is that? are they in bed with mrs Bush?

Too much media is too much media no matter who they say they speak for.

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Oh..and why isnt Osama and his little crew not ranting about how Bush and Rumsfield went ape shit on its own people and blamed Osama?

I dunno maybe Tim can answer that.

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Surely Hussein would be pissed off about being caught in the middle..yet no words from him either...

He suffers from cancer. Whether or not it becomes terminal depends on the outcome of his trial.

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And lets not forget the beloved BBC who would shit in their pants to expose Bush.

There's a gathering of top media people in this retreat called Bohemian Grove. I'm surprised you've never heard of it.

Spoiler alert. Long article:
Social Cohesion & the Bohemian Grove
The Power Elite at Summer Camp
by G. William Domhoff, U.C. Santa Cruz

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I didnt ask for your diagnosis...i asked for a video or photo...till you can provide one your, or whoesever it is, is bunk.

See what happens when you come in tardy for class:

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Originally posted by Psygnosis btw that 911 Eye witness thing i was talking about is on Google Video aswell, view it [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 ed2k://|file|911.Eyewitness.avi|711874560|83307D534D657438AD5E82F85AAA6FED|/

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 You hurt my feelings. Never met a long distance gangster such as yourself. You should have rephrased that a bit but I'll answer anyway. Skip to 51:20 where it talks about the US and others arming Iraq and then skip to 1:01:12 where it talks about Khamisiyah and the munitions contained within. [[ LINK REMOVED ]] How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq Tim Osman A.K.A. Osama bin Laden: NEW YORK, Aug. 24, 1998 — At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a code name: Blowback. Simply defined, this is the term that describes an agent, an operative or an operation that has turned on its creators. Osama bin Laden, our new public enemy Number 1, is the personification of blowback. And the fact that he is viewed as a hero by millions in the Islamic world proves again the old adage: Reap what you sow. Bin Laden comes home to roost His CIA ties are only the beginning of a woeful story In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, an Egyptian man named Emad Salem, who was involved with the bombing conspiracy. Salem claims to have informed the FBI of the plot to bomb the towers as early as February 6, 1992, information he was privy to possibly because he himself initiated the plot. Salem's role as informant allowed the FBI to quickly pinpoint the conspirators out of the hundreds of possible suspects. Salem asserted that the original FBI plan was to supply the plotters with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that an FBI supervisor decided that a real bomb should be constructed instead. He substantiated his claims with hundreds of hours of secretly-recorded conversations with his FBI handlers, made during discussions held after the bombings. Salem said he wished to complain to FBI headquarters in Washington about the failure to prevent the bombing despite foreknowledge, but was dissuaded from doing so by the New York FBI office. The FBI has never contradicted Salem's account. (1993) World Trade Center bombing (Wikipedia Article) The story begins in November 1990 when an Egyptian fundamentalist, El Sayid Nosair, shot and killed Meir Kahane, an extreme right-wing Israeli-American, in Manhattan. A year later, in November 1991, Nosair's trial became a cause celebre among local fundamentalists, who turned out in force to support their "martyr." Planted among them was an Egyptian, Emad Salem, working as an FBI informant, even as he maintained ties to Egyptian intelligence. In December, the jury returned a bizarre verdict, acquitting Nosair of murder and finding him guilty on lesser charges. An outraged judge gave Nosair a maximum sentence on those lesser charges, and sent him to Attica.... ....On June 21, an Iraqi living in Baghdad, Abdul Rahman Yasin (subsequently an indicted fugitive in the Trade Center bombing) appeared at the U.S. embassy in Amman asking for a U.S. passport. Born in America, Abdul Rahman received his passport, which he soon used to travel to this country. Just at this crucial point, unfortunately, the FBI lost track of the Nosair-Salameh conspiracy. It did not fully trust its informant, Emad Salem, and Salem's ties to Egyptian intelligence; the Bureau severed relations with him in early July when he refused to follow its procedures relating to criminal investigations. THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB: Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. 9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush Stop it you're hurting me. Too much media is too much media no matter who they say they speak for. I dunno maybe Tim can answer that. He suffers from cancer. Whether or not it becomes terminal depends on the outcome of his trial. There's a gathering of top media people in this retreat called Bohemian Grove. I'm surprised you've never heard of it. Spoiler alert. Long article: Social Cohesion & the Bohemian Grove The Power Elite at Summer Camp by G. William Domhoff, U.C. Santa Cruz See what happens when you come in tardy for class:

People reading this...do you want to know the kicker part of his responce to me? HE DIDNT ANSWER ANYTHING STRAIGHT FORWARD. He had to post some nonsense and has no thoughts of his own on the matter.

Once again i own another conspiracy theorist with COMMON SENSE.
Now run along n00b and show us all how we never walked on the moon cus u dont see stars in the photos

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Originally posted by tiesto14 People reading this...do you want to know the kicker part of his responce to me? HE DIDNT ANSWER ANYTHING STRAIGHT FORWARD. He had to post some nonsense and has no thoughts of his own on the matter. Once again i own another conspiracy theorist with COMMON SENSE. Now run along n00b and show us all how we never walked on the moon cus u dont see stars in the photos

And the difference between your posts and his post are that his post make more sense than yours. His post offer links and a reasonable statement.

What are you doing? Just blantly talking out of your ass not providing any links to back up your useless statements.

And yes video was provided, a few pages back. Go and watch it, and shut up please, i think you just dropped everyones IQ.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 People reading this...do you want to know the kicker part of his responce to me? HE DIDNT ANSWER ANYTHING STRAIGHT FORWARD. He had to post some nonsense and has no thoughts of his own on the matter. Once again i own another conspiracy theorist with COMMON SENSE. Now run along n00b and show us all how we never walked on the moon cus u dont see stars in the photos

Agent provocateur.

Usually they come out of the woodwork with an agenda to try to shame and mock people.

It's like this statement I always make:

Arguing he's not gay in a gay bar.

Let me straighten you out there spook.

I spent quite a bit of time to respond for you. You asked for information and I gave it to you. I could offer my own comments but you'll just shoot it down as non-credible. Yeah you would because it's in your nature as a troll to talk half-truths and disinformation laced with libeleous and coarse language. This is all you know. If I told you that masturbation would make hair grow on your hand you would look wouldn't you? But you can't help it being the by-product of a public education system that does not let you learn to your full potential. A system where you believe everything you see on television as the whole unbiased truth. A system that you are so comfortable with that you do not question it's integrity nor it's truthfulness.

A system where your next response comes not as an educated one but one of simple words or phrases that make incoherent sentences.

Prove me right. I await your sycophantic response.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 HA HA HA HA...so then what was the reason for orchestrating 9.11 in the first place? Most conspiracy theorists come up with their theories because they claim Bush and his crew was involved to plant themselves in Iraq...so if they went trhough all the work on doing 9.11 just to get to Iraq why not plant a WMD there.

Your arguement lacks one fundamental, I don't subscribe to the theory that the govt orchestrated the attack. Maybe you need to read the thread properly before you try and mock me. Your insults are not only misdirected, they are plain ignorant.

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I didnt ask for your diagnosis...i asked for a video or photo...till you can provide one your, or whoesever it is, is bunk.

Is Bunk? What does that mean - I'm not familiar with the terminology...

Not sure what you want a video of but there is a link at the bottom of this post you don't seem to have watched about the attack on the Pentagon. If you have seen it I stand corrected.
If you are refering to the demolition of a building and me providing a video of one that 'fell outward' then that rejects my post previously stating that in demolition things happen in stages for the reason of safety - obviously there won't be a video of this because that is not how it is done. It doesn't however indicate that it is not possible.
There was however a 12 yr old girl in Canberra Australia killed 1997 when a building being demolished sent debris across the other side of the lake and hit her. She was in a crowd of spectators.
here
here Plenty more pages if you google it.

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Doesnt matter if they have to buy it or not...someone still keeps inventory on weapons in the military...in fact many many people do. Surely you cant keep all those nobodies silent.

Black market? Russian nuclear waste has gone missing before? It's not imposible, but again like I said I DONT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS!

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No way it could disintergrate? Have you seens the phots from the Pennsylvania crash? no wings there either...because it crashed at such high speeds into something so strong that it turned to confetti.

Provide some links...

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Then what do u think it was a missile? a drone plane? FIne i will entertain that...but what of tghe passengers of the original plane? The air traffick controllers? the people seeing the plane fly buy?

All these questions are entertained in the video below except maybe the air traffic contolloers in which case I believe the transponders were turned off meaning the plane was not being tracked. Have to check that tho.

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but thats the problem with conspiracy theorists like yourself...

Again I don't subscribe to a conspiracy... I just question the damage at the pentagon from my interest in the following movie. Does not in any way mean it is the definitive end.

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All you say is wheres the plane parts and dismiss all the evidence against your theory. Such nonsense and waste of time.

All the evidence against my questions more like it, not my theory. I have not provided a theory.
This evidence you speak of, where is it? Give some links for me to investigate.

Link to movie

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Originally posted by Psygnosis And the difference between your posts and his post are that his post make more sense than yours. His post offer links and a reasonable statement. What are you doing? Just blantly talking out of your ass not providing any links to back up your useless statements. And yes video was provided, a few pages back. Go and watch it, and shut up please, i think you just dropped everyones IQ.

Really? well how about you try then...if Bush and his pals were involved in 9.11 tell why did they make themselves look like morons when they didnt find WMD in Iraq...it would of been very easy to plant it after commiting 9.11.

See all you people do is point to dodgy websites and run around and around the easiest question...you simply cant answer it because it can not be answered....Bush had nothing to do with 9.11.

now piss off n99b.

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