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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Well, when bankers and doctors start expecting your undying worship whilst providing exactly nothing in return then you might have a point.


Haven't you been reading this thread? Humans demand undying worship while providing nothing in return - Religion has nothing to do with it!


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Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Well, the difference between God and the sky is that the senses can't directly perceive the former - that is where faith steps in.


You are now aware of the fact that you are breathing in God.

FFFFFFFFFFF-

//And you perceive the sky? Can you point me in the right direction then, please? I keep going up and up and all I reach is nothing!


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Haven't you been reading this thread? Humans demand undying worship while providing nothing in return - Religion has nothing to do with it!


doctors heal us, bankers make us rich (or poor as the case may be!). doctors are also forced to substantiate their work or their claims. i know you're being tongue in cheek but its not the same damned thing


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Lebezniatnikov
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Oh, I'm aware of that fact any time Jennypie passes gas.


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Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



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quote:
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doctors heal us, bankers make us rich (or poor as the case may be!). doctors are also forced to substantiate their work or their claims. i know you're being tongue in cheek but its not the same damned thing


Religious leaders are forced to never lie as well. Do you trust their verification?


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Oh, I'm aware of that fact any time Jennypie passes gas.


But Jennypie never stops passing gas-

oh. Do ho.

I see.

You FIEND!


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God is everywhere! Can't you smell him?


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Religious leaders are forced to never lie as well. Do you trust their verification?


i didnt say "lie" i said "substantiate" which they can never ever do, ergo the slight yet huge difference between the two.


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Halcyon+On+On
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My "as well" was not a continuation of your thought.

My point was, you would trust one authority over another, yet both may have something to gain from you by betraying their code of conduct.


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
My point was, you would trust one authority over another, yet both may have something to gain from you by betraying their code of conduct.


but a priest isn't an authority on anything (theology, the study of the unknowable haha). hardly the same thing as a doctor. yes, either might betray their code of conduct but that's a rather meaningless comparison. i can work out quite easily if my doctor is lying to me, you can never ever know if a priest lied to you until you're dead, and probably not even then.

As mentioned, a doctor can substantiate his opinion, a priest cannot. Any similarities are dwarfed by this gaping divide.


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I cannot conscientiously bring myself to argue with you, even for entertainment purposes.


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I cannot conscientiously bring myself to argue with you, even for entertainment purposes.



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