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ToF
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
so you are saying that "Going Wrong" and "In and out of love" are not commercial? give me a fucking break.

Just give up. Clearly some people are happier with their heads in the sand.


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sparkidee
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Kent

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
Just give up. Clearly some people are happier with their heads in the sand.


I just have a different opinion to some of you doesnt mean to say I have my head in the sand, not everyone will agree with each other so there you go

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RebeL9
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Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by sparkidee
Like I said in my other post some sound charty commercial stuff but the rest of Armin's stuff (in my eyes) isnt what I would call commercial to the point where its over played and annoying


Whatever. I doubt that you people wouldn't admit that Armin is commercial even if he was given a prize at MTV music awards.
I'm starting to realize why alot of trance producers don't want to be associated with the music they produce.


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sparkidee
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Registered: Oct 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
Whatever. I doubt that you people wouldn't admit that Armin is commercial even if he was given a prize at MTV music awards.
I'm starting to realize why alot of trance producers don't want to be associated with the music they produce.


Oh well thats your opinion and I have mine, I detect someone is a supersaw hater then

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supersaw abuse
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan

quote:
Originally posted by sparkidee
Maybe in your eyes but I think his style is still related to underground for one Ive never seen or heard him in the charts (maybe he has but lets face it at least one underground act has had a track shortened and put out into the charts albeit only charting lowly at say... 36 or something?)

he's one of the best known musicians in the netherlands and he's had a number of tracks chart on the billboard hot dance charts (usa) but why am i even talking to you about this

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sparkidee
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quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
he's one of the best known musicians in the netherlands and he's had a number of tracks chart on the billboard hot dance charts (usa) but why am i even talking to you about this


To assert your authority or sumthin? who knows who even cares.

This thread has gone way off topic

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Registered: Jan 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.


A) Troll.
B) Your taste in music is so awful that it is in danger of reaching critical mass and progressing towards a black hole.

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Sykonee
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It's amusing to see folks 'threatening' to go to t.nu when they do just as much bitching about the Tiestin van Schulzenyonds of the world as anyone here.


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yROMAN
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California

quote:
Originally posted by sparkidee
Maybe in your eyes but I think his style is still related to underground for one Ive never seen or heard him in the charts (maybe he has but lets face it at least one underground act has had a track shortened and put out into the charts albeit only charting lowly at say... 36 or something?)

Quick question: this is a trance forum right? hmmm why are people intent on slagging it just cos it has a "supersaw" effect in it? lol madness that is! I dont care what trance tunes have in them as long as they sound good and dont sound like they have been made on a bontempi keyboard by a 6 year old kid.



My point, exactly. There are no "quality" control people sitting in the warehouses of the record labels, listening to music, deciding whether it is indeed "QUALITY" or not and labeling it accordingly. The only people who seem to do that are those who feel their taste is somehow "better" than or superior to everyone else's. The truth is some people believe that the music they like (whether it's Hip-Hop, Eurodance, Country, Trance, Folk, Electro, Hardcore or whatever else) is great and IS "quality", because - just as sparkidee pointed out above - it sounds good. And they feel absolutely no need to check with the members of this forum to see if they feel the same way. The beauty's in the eye - or, in this case, the ear - of the beholder.

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woscar
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Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
1. This is precisely what me and most of the others on this forum seem to disagree on: while I do believe that Cascada and such have absolutely nothing to do with quality and/or Trance, I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.

2. I still feel it's Trance. Just because it is not obscure, underground and known to an inner circle of 500 DJ's only - it doesn't make it non-"quality", in my opinion.

3. An opinion vs. An opinion, is all it is. I believe "Not Enough Time" by Cosmic Gate feat. Emma Hewitt is THE best Vocal Trance track of 2009, hands down. The two following - in my opinion - would be "Man On The Run" by Dash Berlin with Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren and "Unforgivable" by AvB feat. Jaren. Which I'm sure you'd consider "cheese", because most of the club-goers feel like ripping their clothes off, when those tunes come on.

4. All the DJ's I mentioned (and about half of them are newcomers) I find fantastic. And that's - again - just my opinion.
As for the links you posted, I'll check those out tomorrow, for it's almost 4 AM here, in California, and let you know what I think. Cheers.


The problem is simple, actually. You have really shit taste.
If you want to discuss music with people that have the same shit taste as yours, sing kumbaya and do trust falls, then Trance.nu is your best bet.


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yROMAN
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Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
The problem is simple, actually. You have really shit taste.
If you want to discuss music with people that have the same shit taste as yours, sing kumbaya and do trust falls, then Trance.nu is your best bet.



THIS is the problem, actually - this type of a dumbass response. No one made you (and your fellow haters) an authority on taste. You have yours, and so do I.

And also please forgive me for assuming that a site called "TRANCE Addict" would be ABOUT TRANCE - not against it. My mistake.


[Note to self: this is a total fucking waste of time.]

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SYSTEM-J
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We're all for trance here. The tracks you've named aren't trance. Trance-pop at best.


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