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odball
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Exactly my point. Fuckin kids coming on here and acting all retarded because someone has an opinion.

please hahahah kids? Quit sitting on his nuts lol. This is what forums are all about, u dont like it? disconnect ur internet kthx. You guys were the one that brought the fire, so u should be the ones to STFU kthx
just because uve been here since 2005 doesnt make u anymore mature than we are LOL. I luv the internet! THX Al Gore 4 the internet!!!!

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gehzumteufel
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quote:
Originally posted by odball
please hahahah kids? Quit sitting on his nuts lol. This is what forums are all about, u dont like it? disconnect ur internet kthx. You guys were the one that brought the fire, so u should be the ones to STFU kthx
just because uve been here since 2005 doesnt make u anymore mature than we are LOL. I luv the internet! THX Al Gore 4 the internet!!!!

Yeah, I am sitting on his nuts because I agree. Good job. You have won a gold star.


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odball
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Yeah, I am sitting on his nuts because I agree. Good job. You have won a gold star.

OH NICE! THANK YOU. And i have people that agree with me as well, so do they get a gold star as well? yeah hahahahah

Old Post Nov-08-2009 20:14  United States
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Trance DJs see the DJMag poll as important, even though they themselves know it's largely a farse because it becomes a big "marketing campaign" competition to get people to vote for them. Don't believe me? Get to know those DJs and ask them.

House DJs get into the marketing a little...if at all, but trance DJs go overboard, even ones down the list -- they put splash pages on their websites, send out lots of emails, message you on myspace and facebook, etc. It prob wasn't as bad this year as past years. but in some cases the marketing has been flat out annoying.

DJs or their peeps (as some DJs had no knowledge) have been caught cheating in the past (C Lawrence, DJ Dan, Flash Brothers, etc), and I have no doubts a lot still do it on a smaller scale not to get caught.

A lot of these DJs are in their slots because of some period they had of amazing Stuff. Tiesto 1999-2002 (est), Armin 2001-2006, PvD, late 90s early 2000s. Notice a trend? All these DJs had their best stuff before ever hitting #1 in the poll.

Now looking at each of those DJs and at the years they were on top......if those were the years they were starting out their attempt to "rise" as a DJ, do you think they would have gone anywhere near the top? Nope. They wouldn't be. These DJ's positions raise up the ranks due to the more hardcore EDM fans.

It's from that popularity, in 95% of cases, that gets them the recognition of the more mass market. At that point, pure quality isn't as important because of how society works. They are ranked up there, they must be popular, therefore they must be at their best right now....and then they get those fans which in turn vote for them and that's what pushes them even higher.

The issue is that it's often around this time in a DJs career where this popularity starts influencing them. Suddenly, more friendly vocal tracks. Suddenly, more tracks for the radio. Suddenly, hear shit like hip-hop collaborations. Suddenly, the EDGE in their productions and sets are often muddled with more commercial-friend shit.

And it's all like clockwork.

And now look at the top house DJ. David Guetta. What's a big thing about his tracks? A lot of tracks that can hit the radio.

Deadmau5 is an oddball here, but he has the under 21 crowd locked down. Whoever was in charge of his marketing and all that is a genius.

You are starting to see a lot of the newer trance DJs shoot upt he charts. But they aren't going to get much further...unless they commercialize...cause all those top DJs are or will surely be doing so if they don't want to fall down the ranks.....

It's a shame.

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odball
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Registered: Oct 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
Trance DJs see the DJMag poll as important, even though they themselves know it's largely a farse because it becomes a big "marketing campaign" competition to get people to vote for them. Don't believe me? Get to know those DJs and ask them.

House DJs get into the marketing a little...if at all, but trance DJs go overboard, even ones down the list -- they put splash pages on their websites, send out lots of emails, message you on myspace and facebook, etc. It prob wasn't as bad this year as past years. but in some cases the marketing has been flat out annoying.

DJs or their peeps (as some DJs had no knowledge) have been caught cheating in the past (C Lawrence, DJ Dan, Flash Brothers, etc), and I have no doubts a lot still do it on a smaller scale not to get caught.

A lot of these DJs are in their slots because of some period they had of amazing Stuff. Tiesto 1999-2002 (est), Armin 2001-2006, PvD, late 90s early 2000s. Notice a trend? All these DJs had their best stuff before ever hitting #1 in the poll.

Now looking at each of those DJs and at the years they were on top......if those were the years they were starting out their attempt to "rise" as a DJ, do you think they would have gone anywhere near the top? Nope. They wouldn't be. These DJ's positions raise up the ranks due to the more hardcore EDM fans.

It's from that popularity, in 95% of cases, that gets them the recognition of the more mass market. At that point, pure quality isn't as important because of how society works. They are ranked up there, they must be popular, therefore they must be at their best right now....and then they get those fans which in turn vote for them and that's what pushes them even higher.

The issue is that it's often around this time in a DJs career where this popularity starts influencing them. Suddenly, more friendly vocal tracks. Suddenly, more tracks for the radio. Suddenly, hear shit like hip-hop collaborations. Suddenly, the EDGE in their productions and sets are often muddled with more commercial-friend shit.

And it's all like clockwork.

And now look at the top house DJ. David Guetta. What's a big thing about his tracks? A lot of tracks that can hit the radio.

Deadmau5 is an oddball here, but he has the under 21 crowd locked down. Whoever was in charge of his marketing and all that is a genius.

You are starting to see a lot of the newer trance DJs shoot upt he charts. But they aren't going to get much further...unless they commercialize...cause all those top DJs are or will surely be doing so if they don't want to fall down the ranks.....

It's a shame.

how do i close this thread? it's getting way out of hand.

Old Post Nov-08-2009 20:41  United States
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What the fuck are you guys talking about?

odball stop being a fucking moron.


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