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| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
and the fact that their politicians arent as ignorant and ridiculous as ours. |
That and the fact that Montreal is not a culture of mediocrity or worshiping the almighty dollar.
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Actually, keeping a youthful mindset can help carry that on well into one's later years.
The rave scene was started in Toronto because someone went somewhere else, saw what was going on, came home and decided to recreate what they experienced when they were somewhere else. Lots of unused warehouse space and little regulation in regard to use of that space definitely facilitated the process.
These days, most of the people I know who go somewhere else just come back shaking their heads at the Toronto scene, as there's no room and far too much red tape to wade through to recreate what they experienced when they were somewhere else.
And please, don't bother telling me how great it is here - I get it, you're a fan. I'm not talking about what's already in existence in this city, I'm talking about potential. |
Good way of summing up Toronto. Shaking your head at the Toronto scene is all you can really do once you see the scenes in other world-class party/club cities.
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGrooves
So, it has been decided that old days were the best and now the scene has gone downhill.
Question arises: what shall we do or can do to ...
a) somewhat bring back the old days
b) save the scene
c) maintain the quality of music and clubs
Lets face it, we can't change what people wear to clubs and how many kilos of gel they put in their hair but lets contribute what we can and should do to help keep the "vibe alive". |
That is like trying to skate up an icy mountain; it's a losing battle every time.
If the society and culture has become totally crap, it's naive to think that you can change it or possibly influence it, unless you are a person of incredible importance in society.
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Its kind of egoistical to believe that a scene died after you had left it.
Life goes on and it evolves, tastes change. |
So are you implying that a scene maintains equal quality forever?
Scenes always change, but it is also possible for scenes to get worse or get better, independent of other changes occurring to the scene.
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
I blame Club Paparazzi 2000, LA Hollywood, Plastique, Orchid and Venus.
Fun times  |
Freestyle Fridays, was it at Plastique I believe? BTW, there is a little place in Woodbridge that still does freestyle/euro nights, and the crowd is almost 100% jersey shore/guido/gino  .
Also you can throw in Palazzo in there too lol, to cover the younger segment.
| quote: | Originally posted by petro
Nothing is the same it once was, so why should the scene be an exception? For some people here the heyday was 2004, but I'm sure for some of the real old-schoolers 2004 was a crock of shit and was nothing compared to the purity that was 1998. Shit is never the way it used to be, and to be complaining about it when you yourself aren't even an active member in the scene is even more ridiculous.
Just face it, you got old, your raving days are behind you now let the kids make the most out of THEIR scene. Yeah to you their scene might seem like balls, but how can you judge what they feel? I'm sure they think every night of theirs is an adventure and soul searching journey, just like you did when you started.
We all have a party life-span (usually lasts 5 years, anything more than that and you need to re-asses your life) where the first few years are the most *magical* and then after a thousand parties its just another night. I'm sure every partier has gone through the same motions, and the people entering the scene now will be complaining in 2015 (thats if the world doesnt end by then) how things just weren't like they used to be. |
Huge LOL. So how can YOU judge someone else's life, or judge their decisions or what they feel? For some people, life IS the party, for some people, "the magic" never ends, so that is a bit of a naive and narrow-minded thing to say.
With that statement, your post lost whatever credibility or point it might have had.
Furthermore, as I mentioned above, it certainly IS possible for a scene to be objectively better or worse, independent of other changes in the scene, or independent of how young people in that scene may "feel".
People in the GTA area really need to stop trying to be so politically or socially correct, it sickens me.
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
It's this that pretty much renders the rest of what you're saying full of shee-it.
A good number of the partiers I know have been at what they're doing for at least a decade, and most of them still love hitting the dancefloor and getting their groove on, while still managing to lead otherwise fulfilling and relatively successful lives. Since when does dancing and letting off some stream have some magical window of opportunity that closes once you reach a certain age?
My other query is to those who claim that electronic music has went and gone all mainstream in Toronto and whatnot. If that's the case, then why don't we have the same size parties as the ones that have been going on in most major European cities for ages, and why don't we have outdoor, multiple day electronic music festivals like they do? |
Lol, electronic music in Toronto is not mainstream, that is a misconception.
Electronic music in Toronto has simply become more fragmented, like the scene itself.
Plus, whatever electronic music events/parties that DO happen, tend to be more commercial than they have been before, so people get the wrong impression that electronic music has become more "mainstream", when in reality Toronto's scene has simply become more fragmented and more commercial.
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