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SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by PivotTechno
So yes, some things just are that simple


Especially when you carefully ignore every complication.

And you should really lay off those appeals to authority, they don't help your argument in the slightest.


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Talking about reaching enlightenment is useless except for setting up the initial path.

The only way to reach enlightenment is to reach enlightenment.


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The only way to reach enlightenment is to reach enlightenment.



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I was originally inspired to this essay and then later on I realized to share my point of view about that essay. I view the norm in our culture as being highly traumatized, and I view the average, and even above-average, childhood as being extremely traumatic and the average parent as lacking both awareness of this and deep empathy for the child.


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Silky Johnson
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In my children's rights course, we talk a lot about early childhood development...and there is tons of research in my text that supports the notion of childhood trauma being linked to poor functioning (social, cognitive, emotional, etc.) later in life.

I get why most of you find it hard to agree with PT, but the idea is not ludicrous.

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to all the people in this thread that use the phrase 'seek enlightenment':

'enlightenment' is a mere concept presupposing a basic dualism of post-enlightenment and pre-enlightenment - it is completely dependent upon conscious, untranscendent thought to even conceive of it. the word itself relies on a basic dualism of lightness and darkness. so it's really a sham.

the truth is, there is no 'you' who can even seek enlightenment, because 'you' and 'me' are also mere concepts resulting from the basic conscious division of the world into a rampantly cascading dichotomy of objectified subjects, which is constructed by the psychosomatic/neural apparatus of the human body. there is one universal presence or consciousness, but individual bodies, glorified memory banks and thought/action machines that identify as individuals in consciousness by way of collected experience-memories and mental/sensorial stimuli. it is this identification with a body through memory and sensorial experience that creates a conceptual division of objectified subjects and their objects. ie, me, you, my 'thing', your 'thing'.

essentially 'seeking enlightenment' is like the reflection in the mirror trying to become the thing which is reflected, or a flame trying to burn itself into a candle.

there is no 'enlightenment' state that can be 'enjoyed' or 'experienced' as a conscious individual. a truly transcendent 'beingness' is one in which the seeker itself is the sought, the alpha is the omega, etc. so long as you keep 'seeking' enlightenment as a self-professed individual as a craver of experience, knowledge, and sensory stimuli, you will only find images of 'enlightenment' - temporary conceptual constructs (false idols?) to call 'enlightenment'.

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PivotTechno
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Registered: Feb 2008
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Watched this the other night - wonderfully insightful and sobering lecture from Dr. Maté:



P.S.:

Philip Larkin - This Be The Verse

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.


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Rock-fuck stupid.


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How much of the video did you watch?


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Videos tend to induce regressive hypnotic breaks in me. There's too much trauma in my childhood, I just can't go there. Will you help me?


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Figured as much. Enjoy your perfection.


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Hey, what hole do thetans come out of? I'm having a hard time anticipating where to place the jar.


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