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Originally posted by FunkyCrew we've been through this I think - First Amendment shouldn't cover hurtful, odious speech

Complete freedom of speech is much more important than not hurting peoples feelings...

I know it's offensive Kris but they have the right to say it and you have the right to not read it...

I stopped after the first idiots post...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew also in regards to '86 events - people weren't told anything not to alarm the population only the highest ranks of gov officials, as well as KGB were aware of the real dangers of what was going on - people who worked on the site were just wearing regular syrgical/raspitory masks my family knew because of grandpa, and he just told us not to leave our house - that day we got a very long acid rain..

Could you tell us your experience with the Chernobyl incident pls?

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Originally posted by VDub Complete freedom of speech is much more important than not hurting peoples feelings... I know it's offensive Kris but they have the right to say it and you have the right to not read it... I stopped after the first idiots post...

Yep.

Also: “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

Voltaire.

Also, that old man found 10 miles out, holy shit!

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL Could you tell us your experience with the Chernobyl incident pls?

I was 2 years old, so I don't know hell of a lot - it's not far from where we lived at a time, and since grandpa was part of the local KGB division, we were warned earlier then majority of the local population
I can ask my mom more, but I missed the chance to ask grandpa more questions about what he was told at the time because he died in 97

I just remember my mom telling me that we had the acid rain that day, which killed of our grapes and burned holes in umbrellas

some interesting stuff here - http://www.belarusguide.com/chernobyl1/chernobyl.htm

though ignore the fact that they call it the Belarussian Chernobyl - Chernobyl is in Ukraine

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Last edited by FunkyCrew on Mar-13-2011 at 21:34

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Originally posted by VDub Complete freedom of speech is much more important than not hurting peoples feelings... I know it's offensive Kris but they have the right to say it and you have the right to not read it... I stopped after the first idiots post...

I can't google since I don't really know what I'm looking for but wasn't an change to the amendment, to exclude hurtful speech, stuff like racial and homophobic slurs? or am I mixing up with European laws?

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew we've been through this I think - First Amendment shouldn't cover hurtful, odious speech

In principle, I get where you're coming from, because I've been wrestling with this question: why should people have the right to not be subjected to physical harm, but not mental abuse? If the intent can be proven, such as the more obvious and clear-cut racial and homophobic venom that is spewed, why should you still be able to take an insult on the chin and have to walk away, but not a punch on the chin? I'm struggling to reconcile the difference.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew I was 2 years old, so I don't know hell of a lot - it's not far from where we lived at a time, and since grandpa was part of the local KGB division, we were warned earlier then majority of the local population I can ask my mom more, but I missed the chance to ask grandpa more questions about what he was told at the time because he died in 97 I just remember my mom telling me that we had the acid rain that day, which killed of our grapes and burned holes in umbrellas some interesting stuff here - http://www.belarusguide.com/chernobyl1/chernobyl.htm though ignore the fact that they call it the Belarussian Chernobyl - Chernobyl is in Ukraine

Thank you for sharing & thumbs up to grandpa Funkycrew, he's a hero.

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I just remember my mom telling me that we had the acid rain that day, which killed of our grapes and burned holes in umbrellas

First of all, grapes in Belarus? I don't think so.

Second, winds were blowing north, north-west after accident, so it was mostly Poland, Scandinavia and north-west parts of CCCP which got most of fallout in next few days.
I was 17 at a time and remember most of it, as it was happening in Leningrad.
There was news about it on TV and people were warned about dangers, but, please, holes burned in umbrellas?
Sounds a bit overblown, doesn't it?

Misska and the rest of russian speaking ppl on TA could read this, actual writings of the guy, who was involved in Chernobyl disaster. Unfortunately it's in russian only.

Как это было. Вспоминая катастрофу на ЧАЭС

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Originally posted by exraver First of all, grapes in Belarus? I don't think so

Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant was in the Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine)
we had wild grapes growing on the window of our ground floor apartment which we used for shade in the summer time

chto ty mne rasskazyvaesh chto bylo? I just said we had the rain in my city! we had neighbours running in to get home, the rain was acidic yellow

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL Thank you for sharing & thumbs up to grandpa Funkycrew, he's a hero.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but he was a world war 2 hero.. his service at the KGB began a bit later on

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic

I wouldn't be sarcastic during a time or subject like this, he's a hero for saving his friends and families.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL I wouldn't be sarcastic during a time or subject like this, he's a hero for saving his friends and families.

in that case, thank you kindly we miss him dearly!

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