well mo started as a starter before then reliever then closer so even if he is a starter now (joba) he ll go the same route as mo HA!

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dump torre
not cause they lost this season but i just feel its time for a change
an me personaly i felt hes not the same since don zimmer left
i have a feeling he helped torre with alot of calls
as for a replacement deff go with gerardi he has experience and knows the team and is a go getter not one who will sit back and watch them lose

arod could be mvp next 10 seasons in a row but he dont do shit in playoffs so if he left he left if he stays then hes gona do good during season but once playoffs come dont expect him to come thru

mo i would keep he has atleast another 2 years in him

posada is a great catcher/good clutch hitter
but he runs like he has a safe strapped to his back and lacks speed thats what yankees need also these days

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Originally posted by AY STAR dump torre not cause they lost this season but i just feel its time for a change an me personaly i felt hes not the same since don zimmer left i have a feeling he helped torre with alot of calls as for a replacement deff go with gerardi he has experience and knows the team and is a go getter not one who will sit back and watch them lose arod could be mvp next 10 seasons in a row but he dont do shit in playoffs so if he left he left if he stays then hes gona do good during season but once playoffs come dont expect him to come thru mo i would keep he has atleast another 2 years in him posada is a great catcher/good clutch hitter but he runs like he has a safe strapped to his back and lacks speed thats what yankees need also these days

torre needs to go because he doesn't know how to manage a game or a bullpen. he may be able to manage the media and his players, but that isn't as important. The only reason this smuck is going to the hall of fame is because he inherited derek jeter, mariano, posada, bernie, pettitte, and that great pitching staff from the late 90s. give him the athletics from the past 3 or 4 seasons and he would have run that team into the ground. i've been saying that for years and will say it until torre is gone.

since derek had an awful post season is anyone calling for his removal? DJ almost single handedly ruined game 3. lucky for him damon picked him up. also, his DP in game 4 wasn't very helpful. yankees fans have a real short memory when it doesn't come to jeter, mo, and the likes. AROD almost single handedly won game 4 of the ALDS against the twins in 2004 (BA was .421). Plus he had a hot 3 games against boston in the ALCS in 2004 until game 4 when the entire team shut down; he had a .429 BA prior to game 4. check out the headline.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2004/home.jsp?view=min_nyy

I want ARod to come back, but I won't blame him if he doesn't. The guy was booed so much the past couple of years for not coming through in the clutch, which is true.. but people don't seem to realize we wouldn't even be in the playoffs this year if it wasn't for him. And now the same people who are booing the hell out of him want him to re-sign? If I'm Arod I say screw it and sign elsewhere...

jerz i give u props u know ur shit
but lets be real
arod does not come threw in the clutch
half of those hits he gets were either solo shot home runs or hits when no one is on base
plus last year he also dropped a few fly balls while playin the field
and if you look he still has problems catchin them
he looks scarred
thats deff a weakness of his
like i said he may be mvp in the year but playoffs he dont come threw

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If the yankees did not have Rodriguez on the roster they would not have made the playoffs this year. You have him to thank for not finishing third in the AL East. It's that simple.

Not signing Rodriguez would be a huge mistake on the part of Cashman. He's all for wasting money on the likes of Pavano, Giambi and Wright yet stalls when he has the opportunity to write off some smart pay checks.

As long as George is firing people, he might as well show Cashman the door too imo.

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Originally posted by djstopngo If the yankees did not have Rodriguez on the roster they would not have made the playoffs this year. You have him to thank for not finishing third in the AL East. It's that simple. Not signing Rodriguez would be a huge mistake on the part of Cashman. He's all for wasting money on the likes of Pavano, Giambi and Wright yet stalls when he has the opportunity to write off some smart pay checks. As long as George is firing people, he might as well show Cashman the door too imo.

not to mention his $28 million bomb on clemens. why would you spend that much on him and not on arod, especially considering texas is picking up more than a 1/4th of that. (i know im beating a dead horse, but that's important). although i like what cashman has been doing recently. you're right though, if arod isn't a yankee next year, cashman needs to go.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 not to mention his $28 million bomb on clemens. why would you spend that much on him and not on arod, especially considering texas is picking up more than a 1/4th of that. (i know im beating a dead horse, but that's important). although i like what cashman has been doing recently. you're right though, if arod isn't a yankee next year, cashman needs to go.

cashman needs to go regardless

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I think Cashman should stay... Yeah he made some questionable moves, but I think the franchise is headed in the right direction now. He could've easily traded Hughes, Melky, Cano, Kennedy, etc for the likes of Gagne and other rentals but decided to hold off. I like the current blend of young players and veterans... I see this as a good platform on which next season will start on... similiar to '96.

Also remember that if ARod opts out of his deal, the 21 million that texas is paying of the rest of ARod's contract goes away...so if he does that, I think Cashman is completely within his rights to just walk away from the table. Also, Clemens' 28 mil was pro-rated... I think the total came out to 17 or 18 mil that they actually gave him this year.

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Originally posted by chanman7483 Also remember that if ARod opts out of his deal, the 21 million that texas is paying of the rest of ARod's contract goes away...so if he does that, I think Cashman is completely within his rights to just walk away from the table. Also, Clemens' 28 mil was pro-rated... I think the total came out to 17 or 18 mil that they actually gave him this year.

No, cashman should NOT leave AROD the option to walk away. if it comes to the point cashman wasn't doing his job. Right now, if cashman isn't on the phone hammering out a contract with Boras, he isn't doing his job. That is priority number 1.

As for clemens, what does it matter if it was pro rated? He received 18.5 M, which comes out to a little over $1M a start. And that's not including the 7.5M that was tacked on because of the luxury tax.

Even if arod was paid $35M a year, that would be about 216K a start. A bargain compared to Clemens. But the real cost of a $35M contract to the yankees for the first 3 years is something around $27M. So effectively, the yankees wouldn't be paying more than ARods current contract, its just that the texas portion would be in addition. At 27M the yankees would be paying about 166K a game. A serious bargain compared to Clemens.